karimwassef
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I agree. I just need to engineer a solution to use 0.5" for the sides.
Drop off reef design - Starphire
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karimwassef
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The unsupported ends should be 3/4". I agree with that.
The same goes for the real bottom.
The same goes for the real bottom.
karimwassef
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Hey - can you zoom in and out of the 3D models on a mac? Can you see the detail in the corners?
FloformAustria
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Yes, easy as pie
karimwassef
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Ok. This is more complex than I thought.
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There's potential for cross circulation if the flow is both vertically and horizontally switched.
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There's potential for cross circulation if the flow is both vertically and horizontally switched.
FloformAustria
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also works on my pc at work!! 
still don´t know how I feel about the overflow... but I guess I have to think of it covered in clothcrete...?!
still don´t know how I feel about the overflow... but I guess I have to think of it covered in clothcrete...?!
karimwassef
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Yes. It's all going to look like live rock encrusted in coral and coralline.
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Nice!!
karimwassef
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Here's a view of my current overflow wall and ledges cropping out from it
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FloformAustria
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Looks good!
And will look good on the overflow ;-)
And will look good on the overflow ;-)
zachrabbit15
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I like this.....alot. Good luck with the build.
giving props to Flo's tank - check out the link above to see the rest.
I just LOVE these pictures
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I imagine mine being a wider version... I hope it's as successful.
karimwassef
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Anyone with glass building experience able to comment on using 0.5" Starphire for the side glass with a false floor at 24" for most of the length?
karimwassef
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I know. The whole concept is amazing. Love the look... he clearly also takes really good care of it.
FloformAustria
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Thanks guys!! You make me blush ;-)
karimwassef
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Ok. Worked out the kinks. It's doable, but susceptible to leakage.
Still open question on the thickness of the side glass
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Still open question on the thickness of the side glass
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karimwassef
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This has been great learning and great experimentation in design. I think I'm where I need to be here now. I'm going to reconnect on the flow thread...
This is a fully multimodal current flow and drop-off tank. It has a removable acrylic flow tank with powerheads for maintenance. I've added the eggcrate walls and flow directors.
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This design has 14 modes of flow in and out of the dropoff and main display. There are 6 circulating modes + 4 gentle flows + 4 storm flows.
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This is a fully multimodal current flow and drop-off tank. It has a removable acrylic flow tank with powerheads for maintenance. I've added the eggcrate walls and flow directors.
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This design has 14 modes of flow in and out of the dropoff and main display. There are 6 circulating modes + 4 gentle flows + 4 storm flows.
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Now that's some serious 3D animation!!
Wow
Can't wait to see how this will look like in real life!!
The flow is insane! What pumps are you going to use?
Wow
Can't wait to see how this will look like in real life!!
The flow is insane! What pumps are you going to use?
karimwassef
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It'll be a year from now, so it depends on what will be available then. Since it's a matrix with a lot of pumps, each pump can be offline temporarily without a significant concern. I will have to add current sensing to each of the pump lines to control quality of flow.
If I were to do it today, I'd use the old Jebao WP-60s. I've used them for a couple of years without issue (I know some people hate them). They have the new RW-20s but the shape isn't right for what I need. The outlet has to be more directional so the inlet and outlet can be separated by the flow tank's acrylic sheet.
If I were to do it today, I'd use the old Jebao WP-60s. I've used them for a couple of years without issue (I know some people hate them). They have the new RW-20s but the shape isn't right for what I need. The outlet has to be more directional so the inlet and outlet can be separated by the flow tank's acrylic sheet.
karimwassef
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I'll use the Jebaos for the experimental tank I'm going to build for a mock up of the design.
Four to eight powerheads in a 21" x 3' x 5' box should be good enough. I'll probably make it out of plywood with a 1/4" acrylic sheet liner and 1/4" separator.
Four to eight powerheads in a 21" x 3' x 5' box should be good enough. I'll probably make it out of plywood with a 1/4" acrylic sheet liner and 1/4" separator.
FloformAustria
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one year... ;-(
okay.. looking forward to that mock up
okay.. looking forward to that mock up
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