drummereef's 180g in-wall build
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summitwynds
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Beautiful Wrasse! Ive got 5 Bartletts Anthias and they have done very well, not difficult at all. Add some really nice color to the tank too. You might want to try again.
Vlado4x4
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A nice pair of clowns would definetly put some color to the tank !! Allthough i love the B&W ones LOL
When it comes to making a school, go with the chromis, really cheap and extremly hardy. Anthias are great, but they come very big for my liking.
A solitary rock island with a nice carpet anemone would be saaaawwweeeeettttt
When it comes to making a school, go with the chromis, really cheap and extremly hardy. Anthias are great, but they come very big for my liking.
A solitary rock island with a nice carpet anemone would be saaaawwweeeeettttt
110galreef
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I tried 4 lyretail anthias and one male a while back....all got picked on and killed off but the one feamle over a few weeks. I just ordered 2 more females and a male 2 weeks ago and all got along good from day 1?
Chromis are cheap and they do seem to die off over time. From reading seems they need to eat all the time? Maybe that is why they die off too not just from being picked on in the group. But they are cheap. I just added 3 to my mix and doing well.
Also have 2 occy clowns paired up pretty quick. If you get 2 at same time, make sure you get them really small so they are both same sex and then one will become dominate female! I had a pair a while back, make died. Waited about 6 mos and just ordered little guy. They were together in a few days and after a week SHE let him hang in the anemonee at night!
Chromis are cheap and they do seem to die off over time. From reading seems they need to eat all the time? Maybe that is why they die off too not just from being picked on in the group. But they are cheap. I just added 3 to my mix and doing well.
Also have 2 occy clowns paired up pretty quick. If you get 2 at same time, make sure you get them really small so they are both same sex and then one will become dominate female! I had a pair a while back, make died. Waited about 6 mos and just ordered little guy. They were together in a few days and after a week SHE let him hang in the anemonee at night!
drummereef
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I had a harem of Dispar Anthias. They were from Sustainable Aquaics and were fat and eating when I got them. I don't know if they possibly had an internal parasite or if one of my many plague algae blooms got them, but it systematically took them out one by one over a ~3 week period. Was totally weird and bummed me out big time. They all died the same way, tail fin rot then death. I still think there's something toxic in this form of algae I've been plagued with. Seems to really effect the more delicate fish I've attempted keeping. I'm considering dosing Ultra Algae X to see if it might get rid of it for good. I dunno... :hmm2:
That would be called dumb luck.
I use a Canon XSi with the stock lens. I edit in Lightroom, nothing really special about my equipment or setup. I spend quite a bit of time editing my photos to get them to look as realistic to the naked eye as possible but my exports still come out slightly different than the working photo in Lightroom for some reason. Still working on fixing that....Thanks sumitwynds.
I might just do that! I have a nice size frag in my frag/sump tank with your name on it.
It's calling out to that Pearlberry for a change of address. When the weather warms up a little it will be heading your way. I was set on a pair of B/W Ocellaris from a local breeder we have here, but the more I look at the tank I'm thinking I need more orange/red color. I'm not sure if I want to try the Anthias again since I haven't been successful which is why I was leaning towards a couple colorful clowns. Kathy's Clowns always look good, and she's kind of a local clown celeb. haha http://www.kathysclowns.com/fish-available
I agree, some people hate Chromis but I haven't had any problem with them being a pest. They add great movement up higher in the tank and school fairly well. I just need to find some medium sized ones that are eating before I bring them home. A carpet anemone would be awesome!!
drummereef
Team RC
Good info 110g on the clowns. I will definitely get them paired correctly if I go that route.
From your experience are they easy to keep, no issues?
Vlado4x4
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Personally i would not go that way ... I had in the past a really nasty red algae bloom taking over the tank wich i eliminated using Chemiclean. Maybe you could try it.
Another way you could go (the one i´m right now) is setting up an algae scrubber. Very small and i think it looks cool LOL
I´m using the WAS EC-1.0 (Waterfall Algae Scrubber) model. The guy that makes them is from Mexico, but i know he has been shipping like crazy to the States. Grow your algae where you want it to grow ... not in your DT.
Hope this helps
drummereef
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Personally i would not go that way ... I had in the past a really nasty red algae bloom taking over the tank wich i eliminated using Chemiclean. Maybe you could try it.
Another way you could go (the one i´m right now) is setting up an algae scrubber. Very small and i think it looks cool LOL
I´m using the WAS EC-1.0 (Waterfall Algae Scrubber) model. The guy that makes them is from Mexico, but i know he has been shipping like crazy to the States. Grow your algae where you want it to grow ... not in your DT.
Hope this helps
Cool, thanks for the link! I'll check it out.
I thought about trying Chemiclean but this stuff I'm dealing with isn't the typical red cyano most people get. Although I do have a little of it in my refugium. It's this weird slimy brown stuff that attaches to the rock and then ultimately some of the SPS corals. It's been in the tank since I started it going on 3 years ago. It survives in both nutrient poor conditions AND with some nutrients, AND loves high flow areas too. I've since raised my NO3 to around 2.5, PO4 is 0.03 last time I checked which has made a world of difference with the way my corals look and are growing... but hasn't stopped this weird algae stuff. In fact, it's gets worse after doing water changes. My salinity was a little low so I was topping off with saltwater to raise it and recently had another bloom of it. Kind of unavoidable since I needed to raise the salinity, unfortunately. I took a maxi-jet and blew it off the rocks again last night, then changed the socks this morning. Now that the salinity is stable I'm going to see how long I can go without a water change - again - as it seems to get better when I don't introduce new saltwater. It's totally baffling to me. :sad1:This last round, it was growing on the lower rocks and lower down on the overflows. So I'm guessing it doesn't like high light, but I recently set my Vortechs to run on "constant" mode so the tank has been getting plenty of flow. So I know the stuff doesn't care if it's low or high flow.
110galreef
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Good info 110g on the clowns. I will definitely get them paired correctly if I go that route.
they got along great. and no issues. Cool to see them interact as well
drummereef
Team RC
I've tested NO3, PO4 and the TDS of the RO/DI and it comes out OK. I'm going with Pete on this one there is another nutrient in the saltwater that I'm not testing for or can't easily test for that's causing this. :headwally:
Excellent, thanks!
I'm afraid. :lol: Haha. I had a Lyretail early on that died and then more recently the 4 Dispars. I really think it's something in this algae. I have snails mysteriously come up dead occasionally and lost 2 of my 3 Emerald Crabs - presumably to this stuff as well. I'll post a pic in a minute to give you a better look. Literally everything I do, OR DON'T DO, it doesn't matter... the stuff persists.
The rock that is the biggest problem is the Marco Rock I originally purchased, which is 100% (except for 1 small piece) in the display. All the rock in the refugium tank is BRS Pukani, which so far has been OK. I have LEDs over the fuge which obviously will have a different spectrum and PAR than the display so it's not really apples to apples there. I can say without a shadow of a doubt it gets significantly worse when I either top off with saltwater or do a water change. It's like instant fuel for this stuff. :headwallblue:
NO3 is ~2.5
PO4 is 0.03
I recently dosed NaNO3 (sodium nitrate) to get some NO3 in the tank, since my tank never had NO3 from the beginning. This stuff grew with undetectable NO3 as well as trace amounts like I have now so I know it's relatively unrelated. I can say that having a small amount of NO3 has helped the color of my corals and growth has been strong. And I think it's helped drive down the PO4, or made the GFO more effective at removing it.
drummereef
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So here's the best pic I can get of the "algae" or whatever it is. This is growing on the overflow but the majority has attached to the rocks in the display - especially the lowest rocks near the sand. Any ideas? :facepalm:
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drummereef
Team RC
A couple more pics...
It's not on everything, I should note. Only select rocks and in select areas of certain rocks. For instance, one rock could be completely covered in purple coralline but have a couple small patches of this stuff growing on it. Where other rocks will be almost covered in the stuff.
This is what it looks like before hitting it with a turkey baster.
This is what's left after blowing it off with a turkey baster.
It's not on everything, I should note. Only select rocks and in select areas of certain rocks. For instance, one rock could be completely covered in purple coralline but have a couple small patches of this stuff growing on it. Where other rocks will be almost covered in the stuff.
This is what it looks like before hitting it with a turkey baster.
This is what's left after blowing it off with a turkey baster.
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I've tested NO3, PO4 and the TDS of the RO/DI and it comes out OK. I'm going with Pete on this one there is another nutrient in the saltwater that I'm not testing for or can't easily test for that's causing this. :headwally:
Excellent, thanks!
I'm afraid. :lol: Haha. I had a Lyretail early on that died and then more recently the 4 Dispars. I really think it's something in this algae. I have snails mysteriously come up dead occasionally and lost 2 of my 3 Emerald Crabs - presumably to this stuff as well. I'll post a pic in a minute to give you a better look. Literally everything I do, OR DON'T DO, it doesn't matter... the stuff persists.
The rock that is the biggest problem is the Marco Rock I originally purchased, which is 100% (except for 1 small piece) in the display. All the rock in the refugium tank is BRS Pukani, which so far has been OK. I have LEDs over the fuge which obviously will have a different spectrum and PAR than the display so it's not really apples to apples there. I can say without a shadow of a doubt it gets significantly worse when I either top off with saltwater or do a water change. It's like instant fuel for this stuff. :headwallblue:
NO3 is ~2.5
PO4 is 0.03
I recently dosed NaNO3 (sodium nitrate) to get some NO3 in the tank, since my tank never had NO3 from the beginning. This stuff grew with undetectable NO3 as well as trace amounts like I have now so I know it's relatively unrelated. I can say that having a small amount of NO3 has helped the color of my corals and growth has been strong. And I think it's helped drive down the PO4, or made the GFO more effective at removing it.
Silicates or a spectrum of bulbs maybe?
aquaph8
Love The Fish
Sounds like Dino's, have you tried any peroxide treatments? I hear it works but never tried it myself. I remember you talking about this earlier in this thread but assumed you had beat it. It's been along time, you gotta suspect its something leaching out of that rock but you would think it would've ran its course by now.
cromedogg33
Member
Brett, What are you running your alk/mag at? I have stuff that appears to be about the same. I upped my alk and mag to try and help kill off bryopsis, but this stuff appears to be dying off as well with it.
I also have been dosing lacl3 frequently too.
Have you given any thought to some impurities in anything you are dosing, or using on a daily basis? Your pickling lime solution may have something in it that could cause it. Just a long shot thought.
I know you said your TDS is fine but when was the last time you changed out your pre filters and membrane on your RO?
I also have been dosing lacl3 frequently too.
Have you given any thought to some impurities in anything you are dosing, or using on a daily basis? Your pickling lime solution may have something in it that could cause it. Just a long shot thought.
I know you said your TDS is fine but when was the last time you changed out your pre filters and membrane on your RO?
