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Both of the 250w Plusrite are burned. They did not start today. Replaced them by the old bulbs that I have and they worked fine. 2 days and they are gone.

Wow, I think we have the same problem, bad bulbs. I hae been messing with my new 250w fixtures for almost a week. Today I went to get some fish from my friendly local dude and he happened to be swapping his old Odyssea 250w bulbs for new SPS brand bulbs he gets from his distributor. I asked him if I could have his old 250 so I can try it and problem shoot my fixture. Sure enough, put the bulb in and it fired right up.

Does anyone have the contact number for the plusrite bulbs? If not I have more arriving monday and they usually put a business card in the box. I will see if he can send replacements b/c they are only one month old/new. :blown:
 
Okay, so I have had my plusrites going for about 5 days now (250w SE 14k) and I have to say that other bulbs I've had have made my tank look better. Hopefully with a little more burn in time they will color up but they are very white compared to other 14 k bulbs I've used before. Maybe I should have gotten 20K's but I have used 14K's in the past that were much more blue. I'll give another update tomorrow.


It's been a week and both bulbs still work fine. The one problem I have which is serious IMO is that one looks 14k and the other looks 10k, or 6500ish. It is very greenish. Even the 14k is much less blue than the 14k DE current bulb that is in my Solana. I will probably go with 20K Radiums next time. What sucks is that I would have been happy if both looked like the bluer of the two. Oh well.
 
I'm curious, what types of bulbs are people having problems with, DE or SE? I've had a pair of 250W SE 14K PlusRites that I've switched in and out for the past year or so. I wasn't sure if they were what caused my algea problem, so I kept pulling them out. But, I never had a problem with them starting up. They always seam to fire. I run the magnetic ballasts sold at hellolights and made by Advanced. I've always liked the colors of these bulbs, they were just a hint whiter than my Hamilton 14K and XM 15K. I probably have about 3 months total on them.

DE bulbs here
 
been using these for the past 2 months or so and coral growth has been great. but im not impressed with the color. i went with 20k as im used to 20 k XMs and the color is no where near the same... one side is a little bluer then the other side also. Ill be switching back to name brand bulbs... had to try but i miss the color i used to have
 
Wow, I think we have the same problem, bad bulbs. I hae been messing with my new 250w fixtures for almost a week. Today I went to get some fish from my friendly local dude and he happened to be swapping his old Odyssea 250w bulbs for new SPS brand bulbs he gets from his distributor. I asked him if I could have his old 250 so I can try it and problem shoot my fixture. Sure enough, put the bulb in and it fired right up.

Does anyone have the contact number for the plusrite bulbs? If not I have more arriving monday and they usually put a business card in the box. I will see if he can send replacements b/c they are only one month old/new. :blown:

Did he say thet he is replacing them for you or did you have to pay for the replacement?

Number is 267-474-5240 He never answer his phone.
 
I just figured I'd post some pictures of the tank with these bulbs:
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FTS with (2) 250 Watt SE 14K Plus Rite bulbs, about 3 months old.
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Here is a close up of the right side.
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And a close up of the left side.

They are definetly brighter and less blue than my XM 15K's. I still like the look of them, I'm not a huge fan of the super blue tanks. The left side seams a slight bite whiter than the right. Not the bulbs, I switched the bulbs and they still looked the same. So, ballasts seam to play a larger part in the coloration. I had this before with some XM bulbs where I had to change the capacitor to get the same color from both XM bulbs. I would consider getting the 20K next, as long as they wouldn't be too blue, just to get a little more blue. Can't comment about the coral growth, because I kept switching the bulbs. They seam to open up fine with them. Apparently, the main complaint with these bulbs is either they don't fire or the color isn't as blue as people wanted. I believe the not firing may just be the DE bulbs, but not sure.
 
For those of you who like a bluer look which apparently the plusrites lack (even the 20k), the 14k artemis bulbs on an e-ballast are imo as blue as any 20k bulb I have seen. Therefore, if you like the bluer look, artemis is probably a better choice than plusrite.
 
I couldn't do it.... I bought Reeflux bulbs. Just couldn't get myself to order these...

Hopefully by the time I need to replace these Reeflux bulbs, someone will have done more research on these Pulsrite and Artemis bulbs, I get the impression that they are still hit-or-miss bulbs and not very consistant....
 
For those of you who like a bluer look which apparently the plusrites lack (even the 20k), the 14k artemis bulbs on an e-ballast are imo as blue as any 20k bulb I have seen. Therefore, if you like the bluer look, artemis is probably a better choice than plusrite.

Where did you get yours and what price?
 
FWIW, I received my 175W 14K Artemis from hobbylighting (on EB) yesterday and while I agree with Stuart that the 14K is definately heavy on the Blue side...I can also say that it is very dim IMO...

kinda disappointing unless it brightens up over the following days... but I guess for $19.98 I shouldn't have really expected much :(

Stuart, what is your take on the brightness or lack thereof...?
 
FWIW, I received my 175W 14K Artemis from hobbylighting (on EB) yesterday and while I agree with Stuart that the 14K is definately heavy on the Blue side...I can also say that it is very dim IMO...

kinda disappointing unless it brightens up over the following days... but I guess for $19.98 I shouldn't have really expected much :(

Stuart, what is your take on the brightness or lack thereof...?

I don't find them extremely dim, but I understand where you are comming from. I would not describe them as very bright either. My frame of reference is also fairly extreme in that I was previously running the Iwasaki 15k which are scorchingly bright so the dimer light is welcomed. I think that the artemis would benefit from a little more brightness. I would love to try them with my vho super antics, but I need to replace my endcap. My artemis after several days of burning in have lightened slightly on the blue side and with a slightly whiter appearance may seem a bit brighter than they were when first fired up.

Are you using any supplementation? Aside from the brightness issue, what do you think of their color, and do you think they would benefit color wise from supplementation? From my perspective, I think anything bluer would be way too blue, and therefore, I cannot see using the artemis 20k because the 14k are so blue.
 
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My little experiment

My little experiment

I've been struggling with the bulb choices for a couple of months now. I have three newer IceCap 400W ballasts with SE Lumenbright pendants. I've run the Radiums in the past and while I like them, they are just a little bit too blue for me. Actually I think they make the colors pop just a little bit too much- a tiny bit unnatural for me.

I've seen various comparisons here before but problems were:

a) they used a different ballast than mine
b) they used a differnt wattage than mine
c) they used old bulbs compared to new bulbs
d) they used different colors than what I was interested in

As you know bulbs will have different performance depending on ballast, wattage, age and spectrum so lots of apples and oranges here...

So I decided to spend some time and figure some of this out for myself. I'm not Sanjay so my goal wasn't to provide answers to every situation, just ones that could be applicable to me. In particular, I'm cheap and interested in some of the cheaper bulbs so I focused on the Plusrite line hoping that one of them would work for me. I used a few brand name bulbs I had laying around or borrowed purely as a baseline.

Here's what I had to work with (all SE 400W):

New Radium
New Ushio 20k
New Plusrite 14k
New Plusrite 20k
13 month old Aquamckzo 20K (from trust_deals on eBay)

Even though it's old, I included the eBay bulb because I have a decent recollection of what it looked like when it was new. Ignore that data point if you want a more pure comparison.

Here's what I did:

Very simple visual comparison with just a few quantitative data points. I had the Radium as the primary control on the right side. On the left, I switched the bulbs out. I took PAR measurements at 6" and 12" underwater. The reflectors were 17" above the water.

To get the measurements, after a 30 minute burn in, I moved the PAR sensor around at the appropriate depth until I got a peak reading. I eyeballed the bulb in the reflector and didn't do anything fancy to ensure the bulb was perfectly centered in the reflector. Also, on the left side, the 12" measurement can't be compared to the 12" measurement on the right side. My rockwork got in the way so it may be off. However, among the left side measurements, the 12" sample should be fairly comparable.


Control: Radium PAR readings: 610 (6") and 430 (12")

Aquamckzo 20K vs. Radium
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Aquamckzo PAR readings: 430 (6") and 330 (12")
It should be noted that the Aquamckzo bulb was significantly brighter and bluer when new

Plusrite 14k vs. Radium
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Plusrite 14k PAR readings: 778 (6") and 560 (12")

Plusrite20k vs. Radium
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Plusrite 20k PAR readings: 477 (6") and 350 (12")

Ushio20k vs. Radium
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Ushio 20K PAR readings: 530 (6") and 382 (12")

PAR Summary 6" 12"
Radium 610 430
old Aquamckzo 20k 430 330
Plusrite 14k 778 560
Plusrite 20k 477 350
Ushio 20K 530 382

Observations: The Plusrite 20K gave a comparable color to the Radium but was noticeably dimmer. The Ushio 20K was actually bluer than the Radium which was whiter in comparison. The Plusrite 14K was slightly whiter than the Radium. The Aquamckzo 20K was yellower and dimmer than the Radium but given it's age, that is not a surprise. When it was new, the Aquamckzo 20K was less yellow but still more yellow than the Plusrite 14K. I had a new Aquamckzo 14K but didn't bother documenting it as it was comparable to a Ushio 10K and not what I wanted.

Conclusion: From blue to yellow coloration, on an IceCap 400W ballast, I would rank the bulbs in the following order.

Ushio20K
Radium
Plusrite 20k
Plusrite 14K
Aquamckzo 20k
Aquamckzo 14K/Ushio10K

However the Plusrite 20K, while similar in color to the Radium and 1/6th the price, was severely lacking in PAR. It had output similar to a 9 month old Radium. A secondary conclusion is that the Aquamckzo bulbs, while decent in PAR have very different spectral output than their labels would indicate. Get a 20K if you want 14k color, 14k if you want 10K, etc.

Based on the above, I'm going to go with Plusrite 14K bulbs for now. They seem to be the right color and intensity for me. Not bad for a $13 bulb!!! As a second choice, I would go with either Radiums or Aquamckzo 20Ks depending on if I wanted to go more or less blue.

It should be remembered that this experiment was done with only one bulb for each specimen. Any variation between identical bulbs in production is not addressed. Also, it is unknown what will happen over time as these bulbs age.
 
Good comparison. Just an update on the defective Plusrite bulbs. I sent them back and i am getting replacements from trust Deal. Also I ordered an extra lamp from him. he stated that he has a brand called Coral Blue. Anyone heard of Coral Blue?
 
Great job dsun. This is one the best write-up on bulb-ballast-spectrum comparisons. Somebody should do this on the 250w bulbs !
 
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