Ecotech vs. tunze long term

[ganjero]

I have heard an elephant trumpeting but never crying. I think that expression could scare people from vortechs because you would think is something very loud. They do make noise when going at full speed and I think a VCR rewinding is the best way to describe it.
Tunzes are dead silent since the whole thing is in the tank, and I think the way you want to set them up (only on one side) Tunzes are the best option. They produce a more “narrow” stream of flow (it could be wider with the new included nozzles or modding the old ones) that will reach across the tank better than the vortechs.

 

[DiscusHeckel]

I bought my Vortech MP10 brand new two and a half years ago. Since then, I had to change its magnet once and the wet side twice due to ceramic bearing crumbling in time. Furthermore, the control unit has developed a fault recently and resets itself periodically.

I have also had two Tunze 6055 for two years. I bought them as second hand. Not only are they quieter than Vortech, but also they never ever failed even once.

Consequently, I bought a third second hand Tunze 6055 and am giving it away to a friend as a gift.

 

[Tony B (UK)]

Every once in a while, out of the blue, I find myself laughing out loud and unable to stop for some time.

This was one of those moments:

some of my friends notice it as they come in, they say it sounds like an elephant crying.
.

Thank you for giving me such a laugh! :lmao::thumbsup:

 

[kellerexpress]

I've owned vortechs for a few years now and I have never had a single problem with any of them, and have never replaced a thing. Just like anything else you have to take care of them and do proper maintenance. I now use a mp40 and a tunze. The vortech wins hands down for flow, but the tunze is way quieter. It's a trade off, either way you can't go wrong, both are nice.

 

[ct_vol]

I've owned vortechs for a few years now and I have never had a single problem with any of them, and have never replaced a thing. Just like anything else you have to take care of them and do proper maintenance. I now use a mp40 and a tunze. The vortech wins hands down for flow, but the tunze is way quieter. It's a trade off, either way you can't go wrong, both are nice.

I agree whole heartedly with this statement. I actually run 2x6055's and 2xMP40W's on my 120. Both are great. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd go Vortech.

 

[USC-fan]

tunze beat vortec but i used vortec on my tank. Cleaner look.

Down the road will most likely will put the tunze in this tank but its not needed right now with the little bit of a coral i have left in the tank.

 

[tkeracer619]

If a vortech breaks you can fix it, any part of it. If a tunze motor fails you throw it away.

Used both, had as much trouble with both. Maybe a little more with tunze since they needed to be sent back or thrown away. Never had to send a vortech back or toss it. Just purchased a couple dollars worth of parts. Like a Ferrari, high performance stuff breaks from time to time.

A lot of times the wet sides have been neglected and something most don't consider is that the early Vortech wet sides were no where near as good as they are now. Some people had a bad experience 5 years ago and continue to use those experiences as ammo to bash a product.

 

[sirreal63]

I agree whole heartedly with this statement. I actually run 2x6055's and 2xMP40W's on my 120. Both are great. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd go Vortech.

2x6055's at 1450 gph each vs 2-mp40's at 3200 gph each. I would go with the Vortechs too, but it is kind of apples and oranges.

 

[Nanook]

I have Tunze 6100's from 6 years ago that are still running fine. The Tunze are silent and the customer service has been without a doubt the best I've ever received from any company. I've met Roger a couple times and he is just as nice online as he is in person.

 

[sirreal63]

Dave, that is so 2006.

I may have to ask Roger about the newer ones and problems, I know the earlier ones had a few but have not seen anything in the past few years that indicates any issues with them.

 

[ganjero]

2x6055's at 1450 gph each vs 2-mp40's at 3200 gph each. I would go with the Vortechs too, but it is kind of apples and oranges.

I think he was talking in general not specific models. You cannot compare 2 6055 vs 2 mp40s.

 

[solitude127]

I've had my Vortechs for a couple of years now and have never needed to replace anything (knock on wood) I run them about 90% in Reef Crest.

 

[sirreal63]

I think he was talking in general not specific models. You cannot compare 2 6055 vs 2 mp40s.

Actually I think he was...

I agree whole heartedly with this statement. I actually run 2x6055's and 2xMP40W's on my 120. Both are great. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd go Vortech.

And no there is no comparison.

 

[James77]

If a vortech breaks you can fix it, any part of it. If a tunze motor fails you throw it away.

...and if the dryside motor fails on the Vortech? You speak as though the Tunzes is one solid unit and disposable. You can also replace just the motor, or impeller, or whatever.

A brand new Tunze costs $360. If after the 2 year warranty, the motor dies, it can be replaced for $175 simply by re-using the magnets, housings, clamps, impellers, and power supply(about 50% the cost of throwing away and buying new)

As far as I can tell, if the motor on the $465 MP40es fails after the 1 year warranty, it can be replace for $238(
also about half the cost new)

But I guess you could just throw either away? I cannot see where you get your statement that the Tunze just needs to be thrown away, when the Vortech replacement cost is pretty much the same as the Tunze. Just like the Vortech, all of the parts on the Tunze are replaceable to keep a unit gong, even the motor block.

 

[tkeracer619]

Unless you sink the dry side the bearings would be the only thing inside the dry side that would wear out. I suppose you could melt down the windings. The actual motor should last for a very very long time. Never heard of melting the windings on a Vortech but have experienced several motor block melt downs on Tunzes.

My comment was a bit too generalized though. Wasn't intended. I guess its the same difference in the end.

 

[Nanook]

Bottom line, these are both the best of the best and you can't go wrong with either one. Just depends on what look you want. They both have pluses and minuses.

 

[James77]

When did the first Vortechs come out anyways....was it mid 2006?

Both pumps are reliable and proven though. I'd be tempted to try the MP60s on a large inwall tank I am planning by the time i hit the stupid 4-oh.

 

[j.p. harrington]

i do agree that both pumps are top notch but im still tunze all the way the 6095 wideflows are the bomb the flow to me hand in front of the PH about 6-8" feels as if you palming a basketball they dont really take that much space and even at 100% i cant hear a thing

just something to consider when your talking about noise wise

 

[tkeracer619]

When did the first Vortechs come out anyways....was it mid 2006?

Both pumps are reliable and proven though. I'd be tempted to try the MP60s on a large inwall tank I am planning by the time i hit the stupid 4-oh.

Yeah, marine depot started shipping in limited numbers in April '06 for like ~$350. I have an old one that is still cooking along just fine. The price of the neodymium magnets has risen something like 900% since then .

MP60 is pretty much the best flow pump I have ever used. It moves so much water. At 50% my entire 360g is moving like crazy with just that one pump. My Fowleri tang and flame hawk think the same thing... they hosts it... as stupid as that sounds. :worried:

Turn it up full blast and every fish in the tank is swimming in front of it. I am going to re-scape my tank soon and plan on setting up a strong gyre flow with 2 mp60 and 2 mp40. Ordered the wireless module for my ReefAngel so I can create a standing wave a couple times a day, switch to reefcrest mode at night, and run the gyre/lagoon modes during the day. Was thinking I would run the gyre with lagoon mode so the flow is still varied but going in one direction for an extended period. Maybe on a tidal schedule. Will see how the corals and fish respond. Haven't looked into the code too much but assume its possible to make that happen. Was thinking I might need 2 modules to pull it off but could be fun.

 

[Dave & Monica]

Interesting discussion, I'm looking to buy 2 Tunze 6095's - mainly because I don't have the room at either end for the Vortech dry side. Both are great pumps.