Elegance Coral theory

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12133577#post12133577 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
Actually there is about 100lbs of dry base rock from bulkreef supply. I do however have another 100lbs or so of live rock in my sump. I wanted more room for my tangs to swim and my colored sticks to grow.

great--that's what I thought---I use my sump to seed base rock also

 

[Razzagas]

Elegance coral:

I was reading Borneman's book on corals, and he says you should not place these corals on the rock work. Is this something you would stand by? I have no room on my sand bed, so I would have to put it on the rocks. WHat do you think?

 

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12133231#post12133231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dadonoflaw
i hope i can ask this question here. i bought an elegance last march but i dont know if it was an aussie. it was doing very well and i fed it regularly. about 2 months ago it started to recede. now it is done to one polyp. that polyp hasnt gotten bigger or smaller and i moved it to an area with less flow. i havent witnessed any predators. i have available nutrients and not much has changed in my tank since this happened. what do you guys think?

Can you tell us a little more about your system? How strong was the flow? Lighting? Other tank inhabitants like clowns or tangs? Water quality? Did you feed it, and if so, what? There are many different influences that can cause your Elegance to do this.

 

[Aquarist007]

Elegance Coral--what kind of report card can you give me. From my little experince with elegance corals, I notice that the base is not as green but there are man more polyps per head. Is this doing fine or not?
January--when I first got it:

March(today)

 

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12139471#post12139471 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Razzagas
Elegance coral:

I was reading Borneman's book on corals, and he says you should not place these corals on the rock work. Is this something you would stand by? I have no room on my sand bed, so I would have to put it on the rocks. WHat do you think?

There are pros and cons to either placement. I keep most of my Elegance on rocks. Never had a problem. In fact they can be found in rocky habitats in the wild. The biggest concern, outside of falls, is the thin layer of tissue that overlaps the top edge of the skeleton. As long as you can position the coral so that this tissue is not pressed between the skeleton and rocks, the coral should be fine. Flow and lighting is far more important that what substrate the coral is on.

 

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12139715#post12139715 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
Elegance Coral--what kind of report card can you give me. From my little experince with elegance corals, I notice that the base is not as green but there are man more polyps per head. Is this doing fine or not?
January--when I first got it:

March(today)

Most of the Elegance corals we get will change color to some degree. We would have to match the light it was receiving in the wild to keep it from changing color. Because we don't know what the lighting was like for any individual Elegance, it's next to impossible for us to duplicate it in our systems.
Your coral looks much better to me in the second pic. The tentacles are not as flaccid and the polyp is expanded much fuller. This is still not the full potential of your coral though. Something is keeping it from expanding all the way. Looks like you have reduced the flow it was receiving, based on other pics you have posted. This is probably part of the reason for the improvement. Do you feed it? If so, I would keep an eye on that yellow tang. They learn pretty quickly that food can be found in an Elegance. Even if it is just undigested waste produced by the coral. Once they figure this out, they will continually peck at the coral keeping it from fully opening. Especially in the evenings when the coral is withdrawing for the night. With that said, you have done a great job with this coral and it looks very healthy.

 

[Aquarist007]

thank you so much for boosting my confidence--its funny when I purchased this I purchase to goniporia and a button coral--I lost all those and I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to lose the elegance to
Remember I posted before about it being buddies with the rta beside it----its very close--I wonder if that is preventing it from spreading out
There is also little room left between it and the front glass.

Oh--last night a piece of montipora frag fell on the side of it upside down though

here is another picture so you can see what is around it

I feed it twice a week with the rta--small pieces of shrimp, octopus, clam, scallop etc etc(it was out of a mixture I bought at the grocery store)
The tangs don't seem to like the meaty stuff--mysis yes but thatls all

 

[Aquarist007]

sorry about that tang--it loves the flash on the camera so its hard to get a picture without it in it

from the picture there is about one inch between it and the rta and the green mat coral on the other side.

I have no other place to put it with that amt of space--and the rose tip won't go anywhere---its thinks it has seniorty over the elegance because it was there first----LOL

 

[elegance coral]

This is a pic of what GSP can do to Elegance corals. Note the withdrawn tentacles just above the GSP. I have had caulerpa go sexual in my system causing the GSP to discharge its toxins. When this happened the Elegance corals would withdraw the tentacles that were closest to the GSP. If Elegance corals can be sensitive to chemical warfare from soft corals like GSP and Leathers, I would assume it could be possible with anemones as well. Although, I have never seen it. I would try giving the Elegance some more room to spread out and maybe placing the GSP down current from the Elegance.

 

[Aquarist007]

thanks very much for the advise I will move the gsp tomorrow

I think rose anenomes are ones that have a very harmless sting--they would rather retract to a cave or whole then fight back.
I've had frags fall right on him and he just retracts from them.

what do elegance corals have to fight with?

 

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12140650#post12140650 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
thanks very much for the advise I will move the gsp tomorrow

I think rose anenomes are ones that have a very harmless sting--they would rather retract to a cave or whole then fight back.
I've had frags fall right on him and he just retracts from them.

what do elegance corals have to fight with?

They have plenty to fight with. Don't get me wrong. Elegance corals can be very tough, but they are not all created equal. This Elegance is in with GSP, Leathers, and other soft corals and anemones. Even a 15+ inch green carpet. Nothing effects him. He keeps the rocks around him bare with his very powerful stinging cells. If they are attacked by small creatures like crabs or worms, they can discharge their mesenterial filiments/guts with their digestive acids. There aren't many corals that can compete with a fully healthy Elegance. The problem is that the shipping process can be very hard on them. You can see this in the change your coral has gone through in the past two months. It can take quite a bit of time for an Elegance to get back to full strength. During this time they are weaker and more sensitive to outside influences. If the environment isn't right, they may never reach their full potential.

 

[dadonoflaw]

i have 3 modded mj 12oo's and a seio 1100. its a 180 gal tank with 3 150 watt 14k mh's and 4 96 watt pc's i had a powder blue tang a yellow tang and 2 ocellaris clowns at the time of its decline. i usually fed mysis both pe and regular and cyclopeeze. it still takes food. but the tentacles are very short compared to when it was happy.

 

[mehdijenny]

hi to all
I bought a elegance coral 2 month ago and it opened completly in first week.
I tested the water and found that ph-kh-ca-mg were low and I was starting to dosing kalk but I faced to some problem and my ph-kh-ca changed day to day and during this process my elegance wasnt open completly. after I succeed to stabilize my ph-kh-mg-ca in 10 days ago my elegance dosen't open completly yet.
also in 1 month ago it fell on my long tentacle anemone for some hours after i picked it up and place it on his place for 4 days elegance and anemone not opened and after that anemone open completly but elegance like past days not opened completly.
now my elegance is completly close in night and from morning to noon is half open and on 13 oclock that i turn on my 14k light it extend a bit ,on 15 after turning on the 20k its extend more ,on 19 that i turn off 20k it start to close and after 21 that i turn off 14k it not change untill the room lamp turn off and then close completely.
he eat shrimp meat aggressively that i feed him ,In the time that it has more size I see bright green on it and its tentacles is very short and puffy.
I place it on live rock far away any other coral in low flow rate and moderate light.
water parameter:s.g:1.025_ph:8.1-8.2_kh:11_no3:5_po4:0_mg:130_ca:430_temp:25c
5 days ago I checked s.g and it was 1.020 and I raise it to 1.025.

please help me what shuold I do. Is it posible the reason of problem are fast changing in water parameters and my coral shocked ?

 

[Mr_N1ce]

hi guys
I have my elegance since 3-4 months and somehow the tentacles are shorter than on most pictures I see here:

could it get too much flow or are there species with just shorter tentacles than others?

 

[frctlimg]

That coral has flatworms crawling all over it. You need to get them taken care of.

 

[Mr_N1ce]

That coral has flatworms crawling all over it. You need to get them taken care of.

I know they're a pest in my tank. But I ve been told, that the corals usually dont mind the flatworms. Could it be too much, so it does affect the coral?

 

[cjk76]

I've always heard that flatworms definitely can affect your corals. That is why it is always good to use coral RX or another dip before placing your corals into your system. Is there any chance that you could put the coral into a holding tank while you take care of the flatworms?

 

[mrhasan]

I got an (ahmm) indo elegance coral from an online vendor (in Canada) and he asked me to contact here regarding the care.

Well the coral looks healthy but I am not sure how long it is going to be such but I am hopeful that with your insights, I will do good with it

Anyway, so when I got it, it had some red screen buildup on its skeleton. Not slimy or anything, maybe just a mat of red sponge so didn't bother it. You can see it in the picture below:

My tank is 20L gallon tank. Its 12" deep and use 2 30"T5HO lights over the tank (around 4" from the surface). I have a rock arch which is totally shadowed under it. I put it under it but felt like it was too dark. So I have put it out from the arch on the sand bed. Here's the picture:

The elegance has been in my tank for like 10hours and it hasn't open up yet. It keeps on pumping up (like balloon) and then becomes normal and extends the tentacles a bit. The left head looks the best than the others.

So am I doing it right?

Would love to get some valuable insights

 

[Psionicdragon]

the elegance doesn't look too healthy. it looks like it has started receeding.

 

[mrhasan]

the elegance doesn't look too healthy. it looks like it has started receeding.

Really? I didn't see any tissue or mucus from the elegance. :hmm5: