"Exotic Coral" 3600g Personal Aquarium

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Shutin I want to thank you for your dedicated and intelligent response, I believe when you said,

I've flown home on a red eye because one of the fish was sick. Would you canceled your over seas trips with family members because some anemones looked sick the day before departure? I did, more than once. I have contributed to public aquariums with corals, and I'll continue to do that at the right time. I have gotten e-mails and requests for established anemones, and I am sure some smaller tank owners could have a few of my "babies" if I quit.
you said a lot.

I believe this answer explains a lot, and I thank you for it. I believe propagation is key for this hobby to survive some of the great impacts our lifestyles have made on the oceans. I know some people here have stated that they believe, no amount of collecting of Rietteri's would have an impact on the worlds population, whereas others have stated that they have personally seen atolls and reef's decimated by colecting of this species. I have to say to anyone who dives regularly, and travels to certain spots repeadtly, there is a change occuring and not a good one. This is not to say the hobby is representative of this change, but as someone stated "this tank is a glimspe into a time period of reef," they are absolutely correct because reefs are changing.

I have been trying personally to get funding from Unesco to raise and breed angelfish for sometime now, and have been doing tons of research on this topic. I am incontact with a few marine biologist, some from Wood's Hole Oceangrpahic Institute, others from local aquariums, and all who have worked in Indonesia, Phillipines, etc... have seen great changes to our reefs and are working towards rebuilding them. There is a website called the Coral Reef Project, I have to get the link for everyone, but on this site, they use steel cages with small electric voltage running through them to encourage coral growth, although this isnt useful in the confines of a home aquarium, it seems to work well in the wild. I know this is not new information to any savy readers here, but to some it maybe.

My concern about Ritteri's is their ability to reproduce, and taking large mother colonies from the wild, is a dangerous game for the fish species we all love as well as for the anenmones. I think Shu Tin you understand this dillema when trying to propgate a species, hopefully in the end some great insight will be gained, and hopefully the biologist working with you, can really do us all a favor a do a good lengthly study of what your trying to accomplish. I feel the same about angelfish, particularly Centrotype genus.

I have to apologize for underestimating your commitment and reasoning for this tank. I am glad your doing what your doing, and I hope you keep a good contigency plan with local aquairums for your livestock if god forbid the day comes when you may have to give up this wonder.

I love this hobby, and all it ecnompases, some people don't see that we are actually pushing the envelope here, being able to study at home things most biologist don't get to do in the wild.

Yes as Shutin suggested let's keep everything civil here, I never meant any offense to anyone, just a curious person here. No I wouldn't ask an Texans to give up steak, steak is quite tasty and something I miss very much, but high cholestorol, has me on a different diet then I'd choose, G-d knows I have eaten quite a few steaks in my day. lol

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There is a guy, Witt, is growing Mandarin babies! You might check him out at the Marine ornamental Fish & Invert Registry site.
It is awesome to see such an accomplishment. He is working on getting the babies to eat flakes.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12591395#post12591395 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AQUA DAVE
How do you know which Mags are deep water and shallow? Collection origin? The one that I currently have was collected in eastern Asia. Blue foot with purple tenticles and cream tips. I have a thread in Clowns and anemones with pictures and videos.
Thanks

I don't know except their behaviors after been in my tank for a while. The shallow water ones are smaller, more of the large BTA sizes, and they prefer upper reef. I believe the ones that developed asexual division were shallower water ones. The deep water ones don't have as bright of colors in my tank. Once I saw this reef atoll that was miles and miles of ritteris that were all looked exact the same bright colors.

NP, its OK dv0920. I do share you concern in regards to our reef ecosystems, however, I think you are holding me in a higher standard because my system is larger. I am cognoscente of my awesome responsibility for these animals, but thanks for reminding me:) Each and every life is precious; big or small. We should all do our bests. Cheers all!
 
Shu tin, interesting how you are noticing these differeing characteristics of Ritteri's in your aquarium. Aqua Dave, so are the color morphs a tell tale sign or both location and ability to reprouce asexually or sexually. Strike that I meant proclivity, not ability, meaning the shallow water species seem to reproduce through asexual reproduction rather then sexual.


Shu Tin, I apologize I guess I am holding you higher, because your tank is so aw inspiring, I feel I have to, your weilding a great amount of influence with your tank, just making sure your using your powers for good Jedi. :lol:

Shu tin, I want to say your response is really a breath of fresh air, we definately need more women involved in this hobby. I am currently teaching my very very young daughter to love the reef and my aquarium, she is barely 6 months but I let her splash in my rimless tank, and she loves it, she stares and stares at all the beautiful colors and movements of fishes. The futures lies in her hands and I want her well prepared as a reef keeper.

Cheers
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im curious to know something myself. i actually hear quite often of spawning events by corals, and fish alike. why with these spawning events taking place so often in home aquaria, are more of the offspring not raised into adulthood? abereefur for example says his mandarin spawn nightly. to me thats seems like the perfect opportunity to raise the fry into adult fish. now i know its not as easy as just "raising the fish", but whats stopping so many people from trying? in probably the last 10 instances that ive heard people talking about clown spawns, only 1 of thoes people actually made an attempt at raising the fry.

i just wonder why more people dont attempt to raise thier reproducing animals into adulthood? (whatever may be spawning in thier tanks) is it cost, lack of knowledge, both?

on a side note, dont most fish fry eat rotifiers??
 
Our aquariums typically have a MUCH higher concentration of other fish and animals. They eat the fry long before they are big enough to fend for themselves. We also typically don't have the food in our tanks that the fry require to live.
 
right, typically the fry would be removed from the display tank, and seperated from thier parents except in the case of brooding species. obviously fry left in a display reef would be decimated immideatly! but there are successful breeding methods currently used by professionals right? i guess im just curious as to why more people dont try thier hand at raising thier spawn the ways that prfessionals do, but in thier own home? to me it sounds like it'd be fun:)
 
lots and lots of people breed clowns in their homes....

it would be fun, but keeping the live food cultures alive can be tricky
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12594069#post12594069 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrismunn
i guess im just curious as to why more people dont try thier hand at raising thier spawn the ways that prfessionals do, but in thier own home? to me it sounds like it'd be fun:)

I've wondered that as well. I think the answer is because it is very very hard, even for the easier species. Read FBs excellent thread on breeding clownfish: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1289236&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Once you separate the eggs/fry from all of the fish that might eat them, there seem to be two remaining bigger challenges. First is to find the right food for the fry and what they eat changes as they grow. Second is that our filtration systems are not fry friendly. So you have to manage to keep the water oxygenated and clean while adding lots of phyto/rotifiers/pods/brine shrimp without using typical filtration or skimmer.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12594410#post12594410 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
lots and lots of people breed clowns in their homes....

tricky

i had no idea. probably becasue ive never looked before :D , the only thing i ever see while scrolling through different threads is that people are having thier corlas and fish spawn, but the discussion on that topic normally ends there. although i did see a cool thread about cuttlefish breeding. cuttlefish army something rather???

seaguy7 thanks for the link.
 
that was a cool clown breeding link. it only took me forever to read it!

now i see why more people dont breed. it doesnt seem like there are many steps, but it does seem like everything is very time consuming! not only that but you have to be on your culturing A-game!

i guess if i visited the breeding forum i would see more people breeding fish huh! :lol: what about anemone? im anemone illiterate, but if a ritteri asexully reproduces by means of fission, couldnt you just cut 'em in segments?
 
yes in theory that would work, but you need better than perfect conditions for them to heal properly.

Magnificas are not easy to keep alive in the first place.
 
dont be fooled stunna, this isnt activity, this is hijacking/thread polluting :D

i had no idea that a ritteri was so hard to keep. you commonly see so many people keeping so many different things successfully in thier tanks nowadays that you tend to forget how difficult some of these critters can be! at least for me that is, i havent had a tank in over 2 years i think? and the last one i only kept for 2 or so years.

this is probably mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread, but how many ritteri's are in the tank shu tin?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12597488#post12597488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by StunnaShadez
Havent seen this thread in a while. Very glad to see it active again =]

Thanks to Edward and those who care to post.
Chrismann, I have 14 (I believed) in display at the moment and a few others in different smaller tanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13191028#post13191028 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by awholelota
wow! i'm totally amazed. i feel like i need to leave my office in sf to drive there to take notes from you.
Thanks, we could share some notes:)

M_55g, Will do, and good luck with "the talk".
 
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