Eye infections on Regal angel

[SDguy]

My regal started to get some "popeye" the day after I got him. I treated with Nitrofuracin Green Powder (contains: Nitrofurazone, Furazolidone, Methylene Blue, NaCl) Tuesday through Friday. It got worse, and the second eye began to look bad. I started with Maracyn (erythromycin) on Saturday. Today, things look really bad. I've not really seen anything like this before. Any suggestions would be great. No rapid breathing, no twiching, no nothing. And when he could still see out of the eyes, he was trying to eat too

 

[gildorph]

Here is a bump up for you because this is a difficult one from the pic for me.

I recently treated an annularis who developed bilateral cloudy eye but I had other symptoms: scratching, flashing, mucous, inflamed gills, and damage to fins and body. I only say this because I started with Maracyn2 as an approach and this did nothing, meanwhile my fish didn't eat while being treated in a HT.

I did immediately start seeing improvement after a freshwater dip. I since have been treating with formalin, lowered salinity and daily large water changes and my fish is doing well. You appear to have less to go on to raise the suspicion of a parasitic disease. It does appear you have an injury near on the right side near the gills? Given the overall good health of the fish and without more, you may just want to try and focus on good water quality or do a freshwater dip. JME that stopping the antibiotics when they were seemingly making the problem worse is probably a good idea.

 

[SDguy]

Yes, the plan was to try FW dipping starting today when I get home from work. I ran the erythromycin for almost the full dose (4 days out of 5), and no luck, so yeah, going to add carbon, change most of the water, and hope

 

[ShellsSD]

Hey Peter,

Since we got ours at the same place same time, I thought I would post on here. I was on here trying to search what is wrong with mine. I think he has fin rot but not sure and have not taken any photos yet.

Could they be connected?

What causes fin rot and pop eye?
(sorry watching too much House)

Anyhow any thoughts since I have not done any treatment on mine yet?

 

[RBU1]

Hey Peter,

Since we got ours at the same place same time, I thought I would post on here. I was on here trying to search what is wrong with mine. I think he has fin rot but not sure and have not taken any photos yet.

Could they be connected?

What causes fin rot and pop eye?
(sorry watching too much House)

Anyhow any thoughts since I have not done any treatment on mine yet?

Are there any other fish in the tank that could be picking on the fins? How is the water quality?

 

[ShellsSD]

Sorry to hijack your thread Peter.....

For me there is only a declivis in with the regal and I have never seen him nip at the regal. Water quality is great.

 

[jedi31]

My Cardinal had pop eye a few months ago. His eye was literally bigger than his body it was pathetic to look at. The fish was in the main reef display so I couldn't medicate. I did small water changes daily for a week and changed carbon and it went back to normal in a few days. The fish is still in my diplay and there is no damage to the eye. I really hope your Regal gets better with the water changes they are such beautiful fishes, I just received a yellow belly on Saturday and I'm still hoping he eats soon.

 

[SDguy]

Oh man it looks realy bad today. I'll do the FW dip shortly, and see what happens....

Definitely not classic popeye, which Ihave seen before, even in my reef.

 

[RBU1]

Good luck. Keep us posted.

 

[abrabra]

I read from somewhere that if both eyes pop normally indicate intestinal infections.
If you already try fw dip and there is no sign of parasite, may be can try with those internal infection medication...

 

[wooden_reefer]

It looks bacterial infection to me.

I have some personal bias toward Chloromycetin as being the most effective, not it destroys nitrification bacteria.

Kanamycin and neomycin are milder on nitrification bacteria, however

Have you been running UV at the proper flow rate and wattage before this happen, just curious? UV seems to me to reduce this type of infection. You cannot use both UV and antibiotics now, however.

 

[SDguy]

This is in a QT tank. No UV.

OK, I dippd the fish last night for 10 minutes. He's still alive today; unclear if it helped. Changed all the water and ran carbon. Suggestions? Do I keep using the erythromycin?

 

[abrabra]

This is in a QT tank. No UV.

OK, I dippd the fish last night for 10 minutes. He's still alive today; unclear if it helped. Changed all the water and ran carbon. Suggestions? Do I keep using the erythromycin?

Last time when my banner having pop eyes, I use an antibiotic known as norfloxacin.

then:

now:

Good luck on your treatment.

 

[SDguy]

Thanks for the pics. The milkiness on mine looks nothing like any popeye I have ever seen...

 

[SDguy]

I spoke with a doctor at national fish pharmacy. He agrees with a kidney infection. He says they can take a while to heal, so I need to keep the erythromycin going for at elast 10 days. Unfortunately, seeing as this is a regal, and it has not/cannot eat, I am not very hopeful.

 

[ShrimpChipGal]

Sorry to hear that, P. Hoping for the best.

 

[wooden_reefer]

This is in a QT tank. No UV.

OK, I dippd the fish last night for 10 minutes. He's still alive today; unclear if it helped. Changed all the water and ran carbon. Suggestions? Do I keep using the erythromycin?

I always use UV when I can against bacteria infection. (When I am not using a drug that UV degrades)

A tank, QT or DT, is a confined space that breeds pathogens. Without a UV in a QT for new fish, I feel naked. Immunity, water quality, nutrition are not going to be sufficient. You have to reduce the waterborne concentration of pathogens.

I will never place myself in such a disadvantage as to go without UV when stocking fish, esp a regal angel, any angel or butterfly or tang, any expensive fish.

New fish are bombarded by pathogenic bacteria to which they have not previous exposure. Concentration of pathogen matters.

 

[SDguy]

Oh I'm a big UV guy...no need to preach to the choir The infection started as soon as I got him.... it is systemic, internal. A UV won't help that, unfortunately. He is clean as a whistle on the outside, otherwise.

If you have a kidney infection, they can put you in a sterile bubble, but that won't get rid of your kidney infection.

 

[SDguy]

I figured I would finish off this thread. After more than 10 days on the erythromycin, I came home to find the fish with the outside of the eyes bleeding, and beginning to physically fall apart. It was too much, and obviously at this point it was time to euthanize

 

[sfboarders]

Sorry to hear that. You tried your best to treat him.:sad2: