finally beginning my 480g 5'x5'x30" SPS Reef Tank

[reefer4eva]

thirschmann i know this is totally off topic here but i am trying to learn to use sketchup. I was amazed how good your diagrams turn out. One question how did u make the pipes?? Did u make different pipes and combined them if you how did u make the edges look soo smooth where the intersect ?? Thanks.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

Thanks for the info on the fish. Those orange lines cardinals are great as well and they are available, great. Here is my updated fish list.

1 Bellus Angel
2 Crosshatch Triggers
1 Regal Blue Tang
1 Clown Tang
1 Sailfin Tang
1 Achilles Tang
1 Chevron Tang
9 Lyretail Anthias
25 Red or Oranged Lined Cardinals
2 Spotted Mandarin Gobies
2 Green Clown Gobies
2 Panda Clown Gobies
2 Brown Clown Gobies
4 Cleaner Gobies
3 False Percula Clownfish
4 Hawaiin Fourline wrasses
2 Leapord Wrasees
2 Highfin Perchlets
2 Convict Blennies

67 Total

Getting long... Opinions Necessary.




reefer4eva - No worries, ask what you want about sketchup. Glad to help. I generally take one point and copy it, then modify it as needed. I usually do this with a 90 on one end already and then rotated, reposition, and resize things as need. It takes a lot of treaking to line things up at first. Make sure you use the x,y,z guidelines to make this easier.

 

[reefer4eva]

ehh thanks allot for the help bro. :bounce1:

 

[ReefingBuddha]

No worries. I also just sent you those emails. 1 is the skimmer and calcium reactor and the other is my plumbing. Feel free to cut and paste whatever you need.

 

[jnarowe]

IMO, too many gobies and wrasses. Clown and sailfin tangs are rambunctious so I would opt for one or the other. I would make some cuts there, as 67 fish is a lot, even for a 450g.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

As always thanks for the honesty. I am suggesting these fish to see what I can cut out.

- Down to 2 sixlines (I believe in there usefulness) and 1 of each clown goby, forgot that I don't want to have maited pairs of these little guys (they lay eggs on corals that can kill of tissue)
- The clown and sailfin, though rambunctious at times, will be transfered from my 120g. I have had them for a year together without problem and have grown attached to these guys. I also transfered the regal blue and the cole but the other tangs are up for debate.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

oh and down to 2 cleaner gobies

 

[jnarowe]

If you are talking about the neon blue cleaner gobies, I don't think it would hurt to have 4. First of all, they are midgets at best, and they can provide good cleaner functions. So will a few cleaner shrimp. The tangs will probably have a little war over new territory but since you will transfer them at the same time, it shouldn't be too big of a deal.

I really like the 6-lines, but never got one. Do they go after flatworms or what?

 

[yoboyjdizz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10526940#post10526940 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thirschmann
Thanks for the info on the fish. Those orange lines cardinals are great as well and they are available, great. Here is my updated fish list.

1 Bellus Angel
2 Crosshatch Triggers
1 Regal Blue Tang
1 Clown Tang
1 Achilles Tang
1 Chevron Tang
6-8 Lyretail Anthias - I would do a male and five -seven females not sure how much one male can handle
25 Red or Oranged Lined Cardinals
1 Spotted Mandarin Gobies - one unless pair
1 Green Clown Gobies
2 Cleaner Gobies -
2 False Percula Clownfish - i would stick with a pair
1-2 Hawaiin Fourline wrasses
1 Leapord Wrasees
2 Highfin Perchlets
1 Convict Blennies

52 total i believe
Im not sure on the hawaiin fourline wrasses i have no experience with them. Maybe cut back on the cardinals? Took some gobies out and cut down some of the numbers of small fish. I think your group of anthias and cardinals will be nice in there. Took salfin tang out could probably still have it if you do cut down on the small fish.. I don't know tank is big enough i guess you just have to see how your system handles it and you will be able to judge better then we can. Good Luck!

 

[reefer4eva]

Sorry about talking through you guys. Thirschmann how do you make the pipes bend ?? Look at the end of the OM 2 way (yellow pipes) how did u bend the end ?

Also how did u make the rocks ??

Sorry about this guys.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

Janathon - Yes I am talking about hte neon blue cleaner gobies. A very cool helpful little cleaner fish. And I will have a total of 6 shrimp, all transfers. 2 cleaner, 2 blood, and 2 coral banded. I plan on transfering all of the tangs at one and letting them sort it out. I am still open to suggestions of you all think the tanks won't work out together.

I had a six line and a four line in my 120g tank and I never saw either of them eating flatworms. Possibily at night but I don't think so. I think they are under rated fish, very unusually coloration and interesting deisgn.



yobo - Thanks for the input on the fish list. I know its rather extensive and I will be adapting the list as the need arises. I never planned for all of those cardinal before, so I am unsure as how to factor them in, eventhough I am completely sold on the idea.
I would rather cut down the cardinals to 15 or 20 and keep those damn cute little clown gobies. I also have to say that the sailfin has been with me to long to get rid of it, like that fat momma.

by my count that gets me down to 48... at least we are getting somewhere.

Thanks for the input. Keep it coming.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

reefer - No worries. The ends aren't bend, ther are 2 90's attached to one another. Any bends you see are the results of a 90 attached cleaning to the end of a straigth pipe.

Rocks are a little harder. Make a 1 dimesional series of half circles that make the general outline of the rock your trying to create. Then extrude upwards for a few inchs. Use the line tool to cut the rocks into pieces and then manipulate the different sections to give the rock shape and character. A little complicated but let me know if you need further explaination.

 

[reefer4eva]

OOOOOOOOOOOH i see i see. wow i would have never thought those were two 90s. Welll thanks alot brother appreciate the help and good luck on you tank :bounce1:

 

[reefer4eva]

Thirschman sorry to bother. This is the last thing ill ask lol. K first thing, i cant remember how i made a 90, i did it before i cant remember how. Also, how can i get a picture of the diagram (as in save a shot of the diagram in my pictures)?? Thanks alot man.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

No worries. I can't remember either actually. You are welcome to copy and paste from my files, good luck.

I use a mac so its a little different but I believe on a PC you can pose the screen as you want the picture and then press the printscreen button. If you open paint or photoshop and press ctrl+p for paste the screen shot will appear. Good luck and have fun.

 

[jnarowe]

I just started playing around with it and it ain't easy. got a start though as I think it would be cool to have some good drawings of my own system.

 

[reefer4eva]

KK thanks alot brother.

 

[reefer4eva]

Sorry once again. I dont get what you mean by copying your files ? Do you mean copying your pictures ?? If so that wont help me make the 90 lol. Anyways thanks tho. Haha my diagram isnt looking half as good as yours right now :bounce1:

 

[jnarowe]

what about all the collections online...any of them free? Like I found 4x4 wood posts for free already...got a good go-to one for plumbing?

 

[reefer4eva]

WOOO found out how to make a 90. I learned alot from this link :
http://sketchup.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=8789
I doesnt tell you how to do a 90 but i learned how to from the how to make a donut one. The only thing now is i cant get it the right size. Alsodo you guys know how to copy an object because i dont want to make like a dozen of those anooying things.