Fot those SPS'rs with sand,...

bb all the way once coraline grows on the bottom cant even tell ad can have a lot of flow and not worry about sand blowing all over the place
 
I don't want to impose on your DSB, SSB debate. I've had sand in the past, love the way it looks. Hate the way it performs, never could get the long term stability out of it.. I run no sand anywhere in my system, not even in my refuguim.. No way I could accomplish this 500 gallon with sand... If I want sand I will go to the beach...

Happy Reefing

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Wow, that is a great looking goni. I am not trying to have a debate. I know a lot of reefers that are BB, but like so many others who agree, they are missing something.

I've done alot of surfing here on RC and through older threads and there are a lot of wonderful tanks both ways; with or without sand. I currently have a SSB and a RDSB and I just like the look. I also have plenty of flow so I have never understood that arguement. Thank you for those who contributed so far.

Kip, can you explain a little more. I was always worried that my diamond goby would choke on a piece of larger substrate. Thanks
 
I know a lot of reefers that are BB, but like so many others who agree, they are missing something.

Missing something, sand??

Ask some of those sand bottom tanks how they fair about 4-5 years down the road...

It's the age old debate about different systems

Happy Reefing
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11502427#post11502427 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ricks
Ask some of those sand bottom tanks how they fair about 4-5 years down the road...
4.5 years and still going strong. Colors of course are as good as ever. Personally I feel that there is no right or wrong choice when it comes to sand. You can have an awesome looking reef either way. If I has it to do all over I would still do sand but a little larger grain instead of sugar sized.
 
How does barebottom contribute to unstability and how does a shallow sand bed contribute to stability? What parameters are we refering to?

I believe the sand leach out bad stuff after a year or two and should be gradually replaced?
 
There are as many opinions as there are reefers, also, there are as many different outcomes both long-term and short-term...

A person just has to read as much as they can (or can stand to) and then decide....

I have kept reefs off and on since 1986 (20 gallon nano, even though we didn't know that was what they were called back then) and never had any issues that I couldn't deal with on either type. I am setting up a new display tank right now, mixed SPS, LPS and softies, and will go with SSB, with somewhat coarse real reef sand, mixed with packaged LS stuff from the LFS....

Just my preference....BTW, I will have oodles of flow....just have to get everything situated and pointed right....
 
Personally, I think the functionality of a DSB is great, but, it inhibits the flow amount of flow you can have. So, in my next tank, I am going to have a RDSB and a BB Display.
 
lol...you know what is missing...you helped me pull out and toss about $350 worth a few months ago! :p

personally, i miss the look of it :(. but what i don't miss is it scratching the heck out of my acrylic, seeing algae grow on it and slowly watching it turn to brick over 2.5years :(.

biologically, i think its great haven for diversity (pods, critters, bacteria).

chemically, i think mine over time became dirty and acidic?
 
I keep a 2" SSB in my tank. This tank has been up for over three years. I keep routine weekly husbandry practices. So far I have yet to encounter serious problems. I also siphon the top layer of the sand bed and a new layer of live sand 10-15#'s is added every 12-16 months. This replaces what is lost from the cleanings and helps recharge the old sand.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11505218#post11505218 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
Sand scratches glass, sorry, that is what I meant.

OK, but you just meant glass in general right? Not that starphire is more susceptible?
 
I run a SSB (3.5 years) and have gobies & conches to turn it with no issues that I am aware of. I prefer the sand look but it is a personal preferance. I've seen tanks successfull both ways. I have a buddy the has BB but has a glass wall a few inches tall and set back 6" from the front glass that is filled with sand so he still gets the SSB look.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11505474#post11505474 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Oldude
I run a SSB (3.5 years) and have gobies & conches to turn it with no issues that I am aware of. I prefer the sand look but it is a personal preferance. I've seen tanks successfull both ways. I have a buddy the has BB but has a glass wall a few inches tall and set back 6" from the front glass that is filled with sand so he still gets the SSB look.

Curious about this - can you get ahold of pics of this setup?
 
This is an older pic of my tank, the tank is now 3 years old and has about a 4 inch sand bed. It has the very fine sand. I can't add anymore flow because my hammer and frogspawn start to close up because they don't like that much flow, also the clams don't like it either. My sand can take a lot more flow then some of my lps's.

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