Frogfish experts help!!!!!!!!!!

[aldiver311]

I've always wanted one saw one at the LFS and got him not sure what kind it is but it does have a lure. Anyways I picked it up on Sat. ,looked great. Put him in my 50 gallon QT that has been falow for about a month. I got him to frozen silver sides, clam strips, and krill since them for the past week. One piece a day. I thought that in itself was a sign of good heath most of these won't take to frozen foods.Yesterday I noticed his eyes starting to cloud over, he still ate though. Today his eyes are very white and hes not moving much does not even look likehes breathing. Water parameters are Amonia 0, Nitrite 0 PH 8.3, Salinity is 1.22 temp is 77 even my nitrates are only 20ppm. So what I'm asking does anybody know the sudden turn in health is this nomal to just exprct one of these to die or what? LisaD Iknow you keep these what does this sound like? I guessing tomm. he will be dead.

 

[aldiver311]

maybe I over fed him I was reading they only need to eat about once evry couple of days. I fed 1 small piece of food every day except for Sat when I got him. So he ate,Sun, Mon.and Tues. Hes only about 3 1/2 inches long.Here are a couple of pics

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/aldiver311/PICT1110.jpg

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/aldiver311/PICT1109.jpg

 

[Stumped]

How long did the LFS have him? It could simply be a matter of it being a poorly collected specimen. Hopefully he makes it.

 

[aldiver311]

He only had it for about a week. He always has at least 1 in the store. I've always been tempted to get one but just didn't want to dedicate a whole tank for one. Well I havn't used my QT tank in a while so I said what the heck, so I got it. He did so goog for the first couple of days. I hope he makes it too. They really are cool fish. His condition hasn't changed and he has'nt move from yesterday either. Every morning he was always in a diff spot hiding int he rocks. He is still in the same spot from when I took the pics yesterday.

 

[Stumped]

Did you check to make sure he is still breathing? The only reason I ask because he hasn't moved at all and looked quite poor in the original pictures.

 

[namxas]

yikes...looks like a bilateral bacterial infection, most likely brought on by stress. could be collection-related, or water quality. unfortunately, there's a mysterious malady known as SAD (sudden Angler Death), which manifests itself by the fish darting around and usually bloating, and death. i'm not saying this is it, but many anglers dies early-on. was the fish darting around at all? once you get a "good" specimen, they're quite hardy.

BTW, not that this has anything to do with it, but you're feeding the fish way too much. a couple of times a week is plenty. and FWIW, anglers are pretty easy to wean off of live foods, IME.

your fish is either A. pictus or A. commersoni.

 

[aldiver311]

Well guys just as I thought he was dead when I came home. I really would like to get another one but I don't want to keep killing them either. No he wasn't darting around or anything. Only thing that happened was that its eyes started turning white.:sad1:

 

[JHemdal]

Here is the thing, the eyes are just "mirrors" for health problems. The rest of the fish had the same mucus, but you could only see it clearly on the eyes. Absolutely no reason that this fish just didn't die from Cryptocaryon - the timing is spot on, and the symptoms match how Crypt looks on frogfish....

Try running a Google search on FISH EYE HEALTH HEMDAL - an online article of mine just came out that includes a diagnostic key for eye health issues.

The big thing is if it was Crytpocaryon, and you have, or put other fish in the tank, there may be issues.

Jay

 

[aldiver311]

So are you saying he probably had it when I got him? There was nothing in the tank with him until last night I put in a powder blue tang but I started treating with Cupramine too because I'm trying to get a head strat on it before it rears its ugly head. Will Cupramine Treat the other disease you mentioned?

 

[howardchaz]

Looks like a Pictus to me...I feed my Angler only 3 times a week...sorry to see your Frog is doing so bad- over feeding will kill them fast (although I'm not saying that is what is wrong with your Angler)

 

[namxas]

we had an angler with crypto, and it looked like crypto (spotted fish). i'm guessing perhaps this fish had a severe case of eye and gill involvement?