FS: Moorish Idol $100

[818]

That banner fish is called " Poor mans Idol Fish (24 bux)", and alot of other names.

The Moorish Idol is the real deal.

You can see the scales on the banner fish, but the Moorish Idol is Scweeeet! Plus look at the mouth and eyelashes, and the yellows on them arent the same.

compralo Gabe.

 

[Bebo77]

prices are the same on liveaquaria.com

 

[818]

O snap. crazy. I really though MI's were expensive.

I guess John is selling for 100$ because this one is already eating/and pass QT?

 

[Wilafur]

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8176061#post8176061 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by salt e
THAT FISH LOOKS AWFUL... do the right this for the guy and donate him to the LB Aquarium... he will only die in someone elses tank rather then your own... out of 1731 posts... im sure you know by now the right thing to do.

i understand that the fish was not free to you by any means, and from your post i can tell you have killed quite a few in order to find that one that would live long enough to satisfy your hunger to house an EXPERT ONLY fish... im not judging your hobby experence... but from the way you describe it, good luck.

please do the right thing.

FYI...
a MI that activly eats is NO indication that he is HEALTHY... please dont get it twisted... i have done over 100 hours of reading, posting, foot work, & DONATING a MI to learn that it may LOOK "Healthy"...even ACT "Healthy" 1 day... then drop dead the next... as im sure you have already seen ur-self

wow, if you only redirected all the effort to your family...........................

 

[marcrothschild]

will the streamer grow back? How large do they get? I have a 100g SPS tank

 

[skairik]

Yes the streamer will grow back but I'd be a liitle hesitant to place a MI in any tank smaller than a 180.

 

[john37]

actually the streamer has been growning back. And yes please have at least a 6ft tank for anyone interested.

 

[saltyESQ]

skair, how long have you had your MI?
if you are still within a year, it would seem way to early to call it a success.

 

[skairik]

saltyESQ, I've had the MI since February and the guy that had him before me had him for about a year. That would make him almost 1 1/2 years old.

As for it seeming premature to you for me to call it a success I would beg to differ. May I ask what you're basing your assumptions upon? Have you ever kept this fish? Or are you just quoting the "experts"? Not trying to flame on you and no disrespect intended, just curious is all.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Skairik,
Having any fish alive for 1 1/2 years is good but not a sucess as their natural life span is a whole lot longer than that.

But you are doing something right with him as he's been kept alive for that long. As for only keeping 1% of the fish alive, then I must not be the norm. 95% of my fish are well over a year old, some of my large tangs are over 4 years old and I've had some as long as 6 years before I had a bubble coral spawn in the tank and caused a crash because of the closed system.

Also for those who don't know, their is a higher mortaility rate on blue tangs in the wholesalers holding facilities than on MI's. It took a while but I finally got one to admit it. MI's have been a diffulicult fish to keep in the past but things are progressing as our husbandry improves in this hobby. If we didn't take the time to learn and try, then we would never have gotten past the stage of damsels and softy corals that survived for a year or so in our tanks. WE are keeping more and more harder to keep specimens in our tanks now so to say no one but an expert should keep a MI is throwing away all that we've learned in the past to get where we are today.

If some of you would take the time to do a little research before flaming everyone who says they have or want to keep a MI, you may stumble onto a few threads here on RC that are loaded with information from those who have been keeping them alive for over 2 years.

Most people who have kept them do not like to post because of the flaming that happens so fast on here. So before you start flaming away on someone for keeping a MI, take a step back and really think about it. AS was stated before, don't just follow and perpetuate the unfounded rumors that keep flying around.

Oh and as for the Long Beach Aquarium, if you talk to them as I did, they have lost a bunch of MI's theirselves in their strive to keep them alive. Seems they can only keep them alive in the outdoor shark pool. And those that are in there have been there since they opened some what 6 years or more ago.

But there are people here on RC who have kept them alive in their tanks for over 2 years, and there's even one thats been around for about 5 years or so now.

 

[CW from the OC]

John37,

How long have you had this MI?

Salt E - LOL, when you get religion, you get it BIG.

 

[Drewcipher]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8184064#post8184064 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blown63chevy
Skairik,

But you are doing something right with him as he's been kept alive for that long. As for only keeping 1% of the fish alive, then I must not be the norm. 95% of my fish are well over a year old, some of my large tangs are over 4 years old and I've had some as long as 6 years before I had a bubble coral spawn in the tank and caused a crash because of the closed system.

I think he was referring to importing and all the fish that die on the way to us, not once they have made it to the tank.

 

[Drewcipher]

I should have said I HOPE he means during the import process.

 

[john37]

CW, i've had him for a little over 2 weeks. My other one i've had for a few months now.

 

[MammothReefer]

But you are doing something right with him as he's been kept alive for that long. As for only keeping 1% of the fish alive, then I must not be the norm. 95% of my fish are well over a year old, some of my large tangs are over 4 years old and I've had some as long as 6 years before I had a bubble coral spawn in the tank and caused a crash because of the closed system.

Yes, your are in the very minority, and that is now. How about your first tank, and your first fish, how many times have we all tossed a goby in the tank and never seen it again...But regardless, When you think about how many fish pre-transit from where they were picked, then in transit to the wholesalers, then in the holding bins at the wholesalers, then in transit to the stores, then die in the stores.. then all lfs that sell "first timers" the wrong stuff, ect ect.. yes the 3 fish that we manage to keep alive past a year doesn't really make a dent on the huge number that are imported and die within the year... but hey, it is what it is, and if it really bothered me I wouldn't be in this hobby.

 

[®eefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8180213#post8180213 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
prices are the same on liveaquaria.com

So let me get this straight...the only difference between an MI and a banner fish besides the slight difference in color is that MI's die more easily? Sweet!! :smokin:

 

[saltyESQ]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8184992#post8184992 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ®eefer
So let me get this straight...the only difference between an MI and a banner fish besides the slight difference in color is that MI's die more easily? Sweet!! :smokin:

they also don't look nearly as good!

 

[MammothReefer]

and the MI taste better

 

[skairik]

blown63chevy: The really simple point to be made here, and the only point I've ever striven to make is that my 1 1/2 years old MI has consistently grown and put on weight and continues to consistently grow and put on weight. Key word being CONSISTENTLY.

The funny thing is that I have never done anything that catered specifically to this fish to keep it alive. I've always treated it the same as my tangs. So when I see some of our fellow reefers admonishing other reefers with their scathing diatribes on MI's it really annoys me because it all seems so highly speculative and based more on conjecture than hard science.

You really took the words out of my mouth when you addressed the flaming that takes place anytime MI's become a topic. And it's sad that valuable knowledge about MI's remains unknown because the reefers who have succeeded in keeping this fish captive have no incentive to share it for reasons you already detailed.

Some people have exhibited a tendency to be real quick with the mouth and slow with the wit. They're talking about things they have no experience with whatsoever and then proceed to engage you in a one sided debate about the ethics of fish keeping and the responsibility it entails. Save the moral analogies for church and let's talk about problem solving.

By what or whose standard do we measure success in the home aquarium? Who gets to write the list of what fish our fellow reefers are allowed/advised to buy and which ones they're not/shouldn't? Who in our midst claims this exclusive right? I may subscribe to RC but I don't subscribe to "group think" and that is precisely the problem with MI threads.

I don't mean to sound stubborn but my MI is factually a success story because he is factually thriving in my tank. My personal experience with this fish has been uneventful and has convinced me of only one thing: Don't believe everything you think!!! (Or should I have said, "Don't believe everything you've been "programmed" to think).

 

[Charles99]

A lot of hostility in here

It is a FS thread. Let it be.