therealfatman
In Memoriam
GARF was freely giving out information on set uporal tanks and propogating corlas wg hen other were all just trying to profit by grwing coral and sharing their knowledge with no one. Perhap most of you have m not been keeping marine tanks and cp orals long enough to remeber the likes of Albert Thiel. He charged for everything he provided to the reef community. Hell he even registered the name Kalkwasser in the USA. His web site was one of the very frst sites and you had to pay to access it. even look at the majority of the expert who only gave out information through the se ale of retail books or huge speaker fees. GARF is a non profit organization who employees huge numbers of students in the fields of biology and fisheries sciences. They for years taught classes to public marine aquariums on coral propagation. They have spent huge amonts of time and money or coral reef restoration projects and in teaching pacfic islanders how to make rocks for aquaculure as well as teaching them to frag corals. And they did this while all the industry greats made huge sums of money writing books and making public appearances for huge sums.
Gesham, other than profiting through your own reef related ventures what great things have you given freely to the reef aquarium hobbiests? There are takers and givers in this world and Garf has done a lot of giving. What have you given. I do not even remen mber your name from the other forum sections so that shows how much I have thought of wht information or knowledge you have shared over in the trenchs where most question are asked. Perhaps if I wasted more time over here in the less informed areas of the forum your name might mean something, but the few times I have come over here I have found little to impress me.
I have been receiving many things from GARF at no cost for many years and I have bought many nice propagated corals from them over the years very cheaply. None ever bore your name. They have spent the extra time to do airport shipments to me where they had to be at air freight before 7 in the morning. So tell me what makes you special as they certainly are special and I do not see that in you.
Ask some of those such as Anthony Calfo, Sprung, Delbeek, Riddle, Toonen, Fenner or the now older greats "experts" such as Thiel how much they have done for the hobbiest reef aquarist that they did not get paid sweetly for. At best the reserchers post abstracts or short versions of college papers they were paid a salary to write and that is preety much required of them to maintain there reputations in the academic community and maintain their jobs at those colleges where they are employeed. Sprung seldom publishes any research papers he instead just writes/contributes to retail books to make money not share freely with the reef keeping community. He obviouly does not need the money he makes from the sale of his books.
So is GARF a great asset to the reef keeping community. Very, very much so. Without people like them we would still be paying to access sites such as RC. With out people like them we would still all be using Halide lights and buying all the snake oils sold by "experts" like Albert Thiel.
If you have what you consider smut on GARF keep it to yourself until after you have given more to the reef keeping community than they have. Some how I do not hink that time will ever come.
Gesham, other than profiting through your own reef related ventures what great things have you given freely to the reef aquarium hobbiests? There are takers and givers in this world and Garf has done a lot of giving. What have you given. I do not even remen mber your name from the other forum sections so that shows how much I have thought of wht information or knowledge you have shared over in the trenchs where most question are asked. Perhaps if I wasted more time over here in the less informed areas of the forum your name might mean something, but the few times I have come over here I have found little to impress me.
I have been receiving many things from GARF at no cost for many years and I have bought many nice propagated corals from them over the years very cheaply. None ever bore your name. They have spent the extra time to do airport shipments to me where they had to be at air freight before 7 in the morning. So tell me what makes you special as they certainly are special and I do not see that in you.
Ask some of those such as Anthony Calfo, Sprung, Delbeek, Riddle, Toonen, Fenner or the now older greats "experts" such as Thiel how much they have done for the hobbiest reef aquarist that they did not get paid sweetly for. At best the reserchers post abstracts or short versions of college papers they were paid a salary to write and that is preety much required of them to maintain there reputations in the academic community and maintain their jobs at those colleges where they are employeed. Sprung seldom publishes any research papers he instead just writes/contributes to retail books to make money not share freely with the reef keeping community. He obviouly does not need the money he makes from the sale of his books.
So is GARF a great asset to the reef keeping community. Very, very much so. Without people like them we would still be paying to access sites such as RC. With out people like them we would still all be using Halide lights and buying all the snake oils sold by "experts" like Albert Thiel.
If you have what you consider smut on GARF keep it to yourself until after you have given more to the reef keeping community than they have. Some how I do not hink that time will ever come.
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