Garlic Extreme ??

[Saltydrip]

For starters, they can't be more right about the EXTREME bit!! Talk about potent!!

I grabed a bottle last weekend because my kole tang has been living on GHA and hasn't been to healthy. He has a few sores that arnt healing on his head that I hope are just from cutting himself on the rock in this one realy tight squeeze of a hiding spot he realy likes. He began to not look to good. He wouldn't eat anything I put in there. Soak it it garlic and he is all over it and already starting to look beter after only a week. Way excited!!

This is how I have been doing my feedings:
1. Put frozen cube and nori in a small cup
2. Put just enough tank water in the cup to cover half the cube.
3. Put one squirt of garlic in the water snd mix it in.
4. Wait 15-20 min
5. This is where I'm wondering if I'm messing up. I put the nori in a clip, squish the cube a little and dump the mix in the tank.

Should the garlic not be dumped into the tank??

I'm woried that I'm adding organics to the tank that don't need to be there and add to bioload. As well as the fact that after a week of feeding the stuff my tank smells a bit like garlic!! Lol.

 

[Buzz1329]

I've never tried this product and if it works for you, that's great. But I've never understood how a terrestrial vegetable can benefit a marine animal. Garlic based supplements for marine fish have been on the market for decades, but has there ever been a study that has concluded that garlic is beneficial for reef critters? If there has, I'd love to get the link/cite.

 

[Alex T.]

I've never tried this product and if it works for you, that's great. But I've never understood how a terrestrial vegetable can benefit a marine animal. Garlic based supplements for marine fish have been on the market for decades, but has there ever been a study that has concluded that garlic is beneficial for reef critters? If there has, I'd love to get the link/cite.

I feel exactly the opposite, and never understood why people shared your view. We as humans are land mammals and benefit greatly from marine based organisms like Omega 3 fatty acids and a host of other marine based nutrients. Why would it be so unheard of for fish to benefit from nutrients derived from a terrestrial plant, vegetable or animal. I think it's time this notion is put to rest.

Just my .02

 

[Dmorty217]

I use garlic extreme, selcon, vita chem and Zoe in my frozen food everyday and all of what gets put in the cup ends up in the tank. I don't notice any negative effects at all. There was a article on here I believe that someone had added just garlic to the tank everyday for a year and there were no adverse effects from this. Hope this helps. My fish are all fat and happy. Garlic definitely helps with disease

 

[mhucasey]

Garlic is an appetite stimulant for fish if nothing else - it can get a picky fish to eat when nothing else will. I happen to think it has medicinal benefits as well, but I understand those who are skeptical.

 

[Buzz1329]

Still skeptical but happy to be persuaded otherwise. Persuade me with something other than opinions.

 

[Rockster2599]

I feel exactly the opposite, and never understood why people shared your view. We as humans are land mammals and benefit greatly from marine based organisms like Omega 3 fatty acids and a host of other marine based nutrients. Why would it be so unheard of for fish to benefit from nutrients derived from a terrestrial plant, vegetable or animal. I think it's time this notion is put to rest.

Just my .02

I think until the research is published he is entitled to his opinion. Personally Im on the fence, humans are omnivores and have evolved alongside marine derived foods. No marine animal has evolved to tolerate garlic. Until the research is done we cant say whether the balance swings towards benefit or harm.

 

[FishNFun]

Read up on the research done regarding garlic and liver damage in marine fish.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12393383&highlight=liver#post12393383

 

[Saltydrip]

Well that really sums it up...

I have no intention of feeding it all the time. I needed something to get the kole tang eating better and it worked imidiatly. I'll start backing down how much I'm using since the fish is looking realy good now.

 

[Alex T.]

I think until the research is published he is entitled to his opinion. Personally Im on the fence, humans are omnivores and have evolved alongside marine derived foods. No marine animal has evolved to tolerate garlic. Until the research is done we cant say whether the balance swings towards benefit or harm.

I never said anything regarding whether he's entitled to an opinion. Of course he is. That's why I'm allowed to say that I don't understand why people share this view. I didn't write that I don't care for him to have a view.

That being said, all the research states "high dosage amounts". If you consume large amounts of alcohol, you'll most likleyhave liver damage too. In small quantities, the tannins in red wine are a good antioxidant and help support blood and heart function. I've been feeding all my captive fish garlic for over 10 years and will continue to do so. I've never seen a reason not to, and I have a few picky eaters right now that go after food with much more fervor when it's soaked in garlic. n

 

[Saltydrip]

^^totally agree on the more fervor bit. Fervor is a fun word... Fervor!! Yep I like it...

From what I have read it seams like it's one of those things that if done right have benefits but don't use it if you have no need to. It's my understanding that garlic does however increase a fishes slime coat production. It could be from irritation to the fish and it's a defensive mechanism or it could be because they love it. I tried to ask them but they just look at me with that silly dumb look that fish tend to have. My tang had several sores on it's head that were slowly getting worse. Its doubtful that the garlic solved any real issues with the fishes health but the increase in slime coat helps a fish heal it's skin. It could just be that because he is now eating beter that he is more able to heal. Whatever the science behind it is, my tank is far from a controlled environment right now so I have no solid case. I can say however I don't think that if his condition continued to worsten or remain the same he might not be around to get the liver damage down the road.

 

[Saltydrip]

Double post... I deleted it with FERVOR!!! Lol

 

[Buzz1329]

I concede defeat! Garlic it is then.