General, but big, question

[alexkharden]

I'm going to be setting up my new tank soon. Which means lots of LR and sand and CUC. Lets say I bought something from someone like the packages from Tampa Bay Saltwater, sized for my tank (190DT+75fuge+55sump). Is there ANY way a person could quarantine that much stuff at once? I mean, I know your supposed to quarantine everything before it goes into your tank, but in that circumstance how could you?

 

[liverock]

I'm going to be setting up my new tank soon. Which means lots of LR and sand and CUC. Lets say I bought something from someone like the packages from Tampa Bay Saltwater, sized for my tank (190DT+75fuge+55sump). Is there ANY way a person could quarantine that much stuff at once? I mean, I know your supposed to quarantine everything before it goes into your tank, but in that circumstance how could you?

No reason to....just do as all these folks have done....

http://tbsaltwater.com/testimonials/index.html

and you will have a happy reef tank.

Follow the directions for the Package and you will have a happy tank.

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[alexkharden]

How much water does 380 pounds of rock and 180 pounds of sand displace, anyway?

 

[Ron Reefman]

No reason to.
Follow the directions for the Package and you will have a happy tank.
www.tbsaltwater.com

I don't know for sure, but I'd bet big money that more than 75% of reefers wouldn't want to introduce a mantis shrimp into their tank!

 

[alexkharden]

So, I was looking at the shipping. Triple the amount of the weight of the rock and sand, then multiply by .9? Is that the accurate math for TBS?

 

[liverock]

So, I was looking at the shipping. Triple the amount of the weight of the rock and sand, then multiply by .9? Is that the accurate math for TBS?

you got it!

90 gallon package...about 270 pounds part one.....

...part two will be less as you won't have the sand weight!



Sea ya
Richard TBS
ww.tbsaltwater.com :dance:

 

[alexkharden]

Mines a 190 though. So, about 1500 for shipping, which is just untenable. How are you about pickup? About 200 in gas is what I'd be looking at for that.

 

[broke1]

I don't know for sure, but I'd bet big money that more than 75% of reefers wouldn't want to introduce a mantis shrimp into their tank!

You could quarantine forever and still may never catch it all. I fresh water dipped all the rocks and caught all kinds of stuff, and all tiny. Bad stuff in the sump, good stuff in the display. You would be amazed what a quick shake in fresh waters chases out. I did it over a strainer to catch it all. And after all that I have 4 crabs that flip me the bird nightly because they got by.

 

[alexkharden]

you got it!

90 gallon package...about 270 pounds part one.....

...part two will be less as you won't have the sand weight!



Sea ya
Richard TBS
ww.tbsaltwater.com :dance:

So for the 90 gallon package you say 270lbs for part one. So 270x3x.9= $729 to ship part one. Yes?

 

[alexkharden]

Yes, driving would seem to be better all around. Less money, less stress on the living organisms and rock, temperature controlled, less bumping around, etc...

So how would you work local pickup for an 800 mile "local"?

 

[BrianKC]

I know the shipping (or gas) is a killer...but so worth it. Richard and friends did right by me. I saw the rave reviews, held my breath and clicked "order" thinking that if it was 75% as good as the pics I'd be all set. It was as good or better. They really pack every box like they picked stuff out for themselves. The attached photo is of a tank that got "Part 2" only about 45 days ago. The only things I've added are the fish, buttons, zoas, and hammer. I don't typically rave about companies, but they have such a great product and great service that I have to.

 

[liverock]

part one

part one

So for the 90 gallon package you say 270lbs for part one. So 270x3x.9= $729 to ship part one. Yes?

Is about .90 a pound...around $270.00...part one..about 270 pounds or so....depends on the fuel surcharge that day....+or- some ..

sea ya
Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[alexkharden]

BrianKC - Lol, is that an urchin up on your powerhead?

 

[liverock]

use size of package...

use size of package...

So for the 90 gallon package you say 270lbs for part one. So 270x3x.9= $729 to ship part one. Yes?

No you are using the total weight of the Package.....you use the size of the package as the multiplier ..

You multiply the SIZE of the package by three to get estimated weight of part one ...90 gallon Package times three...270 pounds....and it cost about .90 a pound...to ship

part two less as you won't have the live sand weight...about $200.00...

sea ya
Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[alexkharden]

Makes sense now, thank you Pm'ed.

 

[dkeller_nc]

From the standpoint of your original question - no, you don't "quarantine" the initial set-up of a bare tank. Typically, the reason you hear the adage to "quarantine everything wet" is to prevent the introduction of fish or coral diseases into an established tank.

In this case, you're establishing the tank, so in effect your tank is the quarantine. Simply set up everything the way you wish, and let it settle for a few weeks without adding fish or corals. At that point (and after you remove a few undesirable hitchhikers, like gorilla crabs), you can start adding animals that you've quarantined (fish and corals). With a tank the size of yours, don't skip quarantining your fish purchases for at least 4 weeks.

It's one thing to tear down a 30 gallon tank to catch all of the fish and put them in a hospital tank for treatment (though still not fun!), but it's quite another to do the same to a 190 gallon tank.

 

[alexkharden]

Gotcha, thank you for that. Makes sense given its the initial setup.

 

[BrianKC]

alexkharden sure is. He came with the rock. He likes hanging out up there!

 

[alexkharden]

Lol, awesome. Your "watch urchin".