GHL Mitras Club
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reefmutt
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I found a strange anomaly in my old programs, lately, while using the control centre.
I'd load the program I am using in order to tweak it but when I'd double click on a time setting I and play with the spectrum, the k value would always show as about 2 or 3 thousand degrees higher than what I had programmed for that time.... Really ****ed me off..
The only way I got around this was by starting over from scratch with an empty program.
This occurred before I downloaded the most recent updates and continued after I had everything updated....
So, as it stands now, I have basically abandoned all of my old programs...
.... As I mentioned earlier.. Really ****ed me off..
Both because it seems unexplainable but also because I'm such a computer nincompoop, I can't figure out how to fix it...
I'd load the program I am using in order to tweak it but when I'd double click on a time setting I and play with the spectrum, the k value would always show as about 2 or 3 thousand degrees higher than what I had programmed for that time.... Really ****ed me off..
The only way I got around this was by starting over from scratch with an empty program.
This occurred before I downloaded the most recent updates and continued after I had everything updated....
So, as it stands now, I have basically abandoned all of my old programs...
.... As I mentioned earlier.. Really ****ed me off..
Both because it seems unexplainable but also because I'm such a computer nincompoop, I can't figure out how to fix it...
Anim8me2
Member
As much as I love the GHL hardware I have never been totally impressed with their software. As a onetime UI designer/graphics person and programmer, it is antiquated at best.
As a Mac user, the rationale for not having a Mac version has never been satisfying to me from either a programmers perspective or a financial one. Minimal initial upfront costs vs. long term benefits would seem to warrant a true cross platform environment.
There also seem to be a number of these little glitches in the software. Don't get me wrong I do love what I have with the Profilux and the Mitras. I just think they could be better.
Well, regarding pAR. Had my reef friends over and were talking about my current light and the one i use to have .We measure PAR at the peak of my project from 1 pm to 3 pm.
Mitras set on HO -60%
Water suface-550-600
Mid tank 180-220
Sand 100-120
i think this is very low numbers..What you guys think?
Mitras set on HO -60%
Water suface-550-600
Mid tank 180-220
Sand 100-120
i think this is very low numbers..What you guys think?
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sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Hmm..those numbers are on the low wide...as a comparison I get around 320+ on my sand bed and most corals get around 400-500 in my tank with around 230watts of T5+LED. My tank height is 18inches with no sandbed (bare bottom tank).
What is the water height and are the readings directly below the unit?
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Well, at 60% power, based on the total watts of this unit that is roughly half the watts of my T5/LED unit...so when looking at it that way, it makes sense with the PAR numbers you are getting.
reefmutt
Active member
I was going to say something similar..
Mike, you're basically running the Mitras at just over half of its capacity..
I'd be curious to see the numbers at 80%..
It does make me wonder what my par is at 80% in high efficiency mode..
I still have corals with light stress, however..
Mike, you're basically running the Mitras at just over half of its capacity..
I'd be curious to see the numbers at 80%..
It does make me wonder what my par is at 80% in high efficiency mode..
I still have corals with light stress, however..
Matt,
I will definately raise intensity over few weeks,hopefully not burning the rest of my corals
as per Sahin recomendation i will try to mimic 400w Radiums spectral plot.This bulb i was using for years with remarkable results..
What project are you using at the moment?
mike
I will definately raise intensity over few weeks,hopefully not burning the rest of my corals
as per Sahin recomendation i will try to mimic 400w Radiums spectral plot.This bulb i was using for years with remarkable results..
What project are you using at the moment?
mike
reefmutt
Active member
mike, regarding that graph you posted for your par test.. I'm pretty sure that if you ran the same test with the white leds ramped up higher, the par would go up dramatically..
probably fry the coral, however..
as for which project i use, its my own.. but again taking your graph for your par test, my program is very similar to it. keep the first four blue leds up at 100%, bring the 5th led up to around 65% and lower the others down to about 30%.
my blues stay at 100% at all times, the 5th led ramps up and down and i have about a 2 hour midday peak where the other white leds ramp up a bit but not much above 30%.
from 7 am to 9am the lights go from 2-60% then by 10am they ramp to100% and stay there until 8pm, then ramp down to 60 at 9pm and then down to 2% at 11pm.
when the lights are running at 100% intensity, i ramp up the white leds to a peak (as mentioned above) but throughout, the blues are at 100..
i hope that makes sense..
I'm really not too happy with growth or colour at the moment but about 6 weeks ago i tore down the whole tank and redid the scape with new rock so my tank is far from stable..
probably fry the coral, however..
as for which project i use, its my own.. but again taking your graph for your par test, my program is very similar to it. keep the first four blue leds up at 100%, bring the 5th led up to around 65% and lower the others down to about 30%.
my blues stay at 100% at all times, the 5th led ramps up and down and i have about a 2 hour midday peak where the other white leds ramp up a bit but not much above 30%.
from 7 am to 9am the lights go from 2-60% then by 10am they ramp to100% and stay there until 8pm, then ramp down to 60 at 9pm and then down to 2% at 11pm.
when the lights are running at 100% intensity, i ramp up the white leds to a peak (as mentioned above) but throughout, the blues are at 100..
i hope that makes sense..
I'm really not too happy with growth or colour at the moment but about 6 weeks ago i tore down the whole tank and redid the scape with new rock so my tank is far from stable..
reefmutt
Active member
Since this thread hasn't had any new pics in a while, I'll fix that.. Here's a coral that is happy at the moment.. It made it through the change with ease..
Here's a red diablo colony which went in a week after the change.. It's doing ok.. But not amazing..
Closer..
Here are a couple of other colonies with potential..
Hopefully, this will develop more red... We'll see under the LEDs..
There!
I won't post any lousy looking corals
Here's a red diablo colony which went in a week after the change.. It's doing ok.. But not amazing..
Closer..
Here are a couple of other colonies with potential..
Hopefully, this will develop more red... We'll see under the LEDs..
There!
I won't post any lousy looking corals
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Mike, in my tank, apart from 1 coral which couldnt deal with the high PAR in my tank, all others are fine. I did acclimatise the SPS over many months with my old T5/LED unit.
As Matt suggested, slowly increase the PAR over 4 weeks. No more than 5% each week. Since you are at 60% now, in 4 weeks you should be at 80%.
The nutrient level in the tank should be at a stage where you are needing to clean the tank glass about every 3 days. Ensure there is detectable PO4 and NO3.
The spectral signature of the Radium bulbs is proven to be most suitable at colouring up SPS corals. I would try copy that spectrum? I would definitely run the UV and 455nm Royal Blue at full. The other two blues I would run a lot lower. This is where my suggestion differs to what Matt is advising. Matt has actual experience with this light so maybe go with his advice.
However, initially you can try keep the UV and Royal Blue at full, and then adjust the others to try and mimic the Radium spectrum as best as possible and see how the corals respond. After that, try boosting up the other two blues to maximum as advised by Matt.
Here is the spectrum I am running in my combo of T5 and LED:
That is a combo of 4xATI Blue+, 1xATI Actinic, 2xATI Purple+, 1xKZ NewGen and the LED's at various intensities (RoyalBlue, Blue, White and Red).
That combo as you can see, has a decent Actinic spike, a massive spike around the 450nm area, spike at 545nm (green), 575nm (yellow) and a decent amount of light in the orange to red area.
Can you describe some of your SPS colours? Which colours are good? etc?
As Matt suggested, slowly increase the PAR over 4 weeks. No more than 5% each week. Since you are at 60% now, in 4 weeks you should be at 80%.
The nutrient level in the tank should be at a stage where you are needing to clean the tank glass about every 3 days. Ensure there is detectable PO4 and NO3.
The spectral signature of the Radium bulbs is proven to be most suitable at colouring up SPS corals. I would try copy that spectrum? I would definitely run the UV and 455nm Royal Blue at full. The other two blues I would run a lot lower. This is where my suggestion differs to what Matt is advising. Matt has actual experience with this light so maybe go with his advice.
However, initially you can try keep the UV and Royal Blue at full, and then adjust the others to try and mimic the Radium spectrum as best as possible and see how the corals respond. After that, try boosting up the other two blues to maximum as advised by Matt.
Here is the spectrum I am running in my combo of T5 and LED:
That combo as you can see, has a decent Actinic spike, a massive spike around the 450nm area, spike at 545nm (green), 575nm (yellow) and a decent amount of light in the orange to red area.
Can you describe some of your SPS colours? Which colours are good? etc?
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Woah, 80 mid tank? That is very low...which PAR meter are you using?
