Gigantea Ciprofloxacin treatment log
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blackwagon
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Still looking good.
I need to clear out some corals before I take anymore pics of the tank.
I need to clear out some corals before I take anymore pics of the tank.
benjaminspades
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IME I feel that fish flox is not the same. I've tried both on quite a few different gigas and fish flox fails to cure the majority of them.
I have used the cipro 250mg tablets and in my opinion the gigas respond better to treatment. I use half a tablet and do 50% water changes on a 10 gallonqt tank based upon my readings from ORION.
I've been following the cipro thing for a little while and just would like to say "hats off" to the innovator of this treatment method who I think is Minh.
Have you tried other dosing schemes? I have read that enrofloxacin, for which cipro is a metabolite, in bath formulation, will reach a steady state plasma concentration in fish before 5 hours by crossing the gill membranes. Also, at therapeutic levels, it takes 30 minutes to effectively kill bacteria. I could not find the pharmacokinetics in fish for cipro but imagine it is similar.
Night time baths, or even daily 6 hour baths could be effective to prevent loss of color.
Also, injection into the tissue may be another route to prevent removal from the display tank.
Just thinking......
Have you tried other dosing schemes? I have read that enrofloxacin, for which cipro is a metabolite, in bath formulation, will reach a steady state plasma concentration in fish before 5 hours by crossing the gill membranes. Also, at therapeutic levels, it takes 30 minutes to effectively kill bacteria. I could not find the pharmacokinetics in fish for cipro but imagine it is similar.
Night time baths, or even daily 6 hour baths could be effective to prevent loss of color.
Also, injection into the tissue may be another route to prevent removal from the display tank.
Just thinking......
Pinkskunk
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hi Blackwagon, is this your nem on utube? do you still have it? looks so big, bold and beautifull!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ePYoZZOSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ePYoZZOSY
blackwagon
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Yes it is. Once I clear out some of these corals and reaquacape I should be posting a new video. I think i'm going to go to halides soon too. Fed it for the first time since it went back in the tank today and it looks bigger than ever now.
blackwagon
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The summer sun is starting to hit the tank again. This thing gets 10% bigger than it does on just my leds. I think it's time to go back to halides.
D-Nak
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My gig seems to like my LEDs. I switched from 250 watt 14k halides to a pair of Radion G1s and IMO the gig looks better in terms of color. In terms of size, it continues to grow so I think it's getting the light it needs.
D-Nak
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Sorry Minh, I just saw this. If you go with Radions, I would mix in some of the Pros too. They have UV (technically near UV) which I think is essential for good color and growth. I've seen a lot of color shifting in my coral -- some better some worse -- and I think the lack of UV could be the cause.
I purchase a lot of coral from a LFS that has their frags under 20k Radiums. Within in week in my tank, many of them have browned out. They eventually color up, but I know it's not due to water conditions because everything else in the tank is fine.
If you have a high canopy, or no canopy at all, another option would be to buy some Kessils. You can ramp up the lights via the Radions, then power up the Kessils. All of the Kessils are very nice, but you can save some money by going with the A350 instead of the A360 since you don't need controllable dimming since the Radions are taking care of it.
The reason I'm still planning to add some T5s to my Radions is to get some added UV on the tank. I'd upgrade to the Pros, but the upgrade path is too expensive, and I had the T5s already.
blackwagon
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Anemone is still doing good. I started feeding it again since it was starting to "bald". I fed it 2 times in the last 2 weeks. I just fed it my 3" cleaner shrimp today that ended up in my mini maxi somehow.
Still have my 4 clowns. 3 of them are aloud in the anemone 1 is banished but finds it's way in at night.
Still have my 4 clowns. 3 of them are aloud in the anemone 1 is banished but finds it's way in at night.
blackwagon
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Added 2 mags to the tank. 1 didn't make it. I tried to treat it but I didn't have the time to do what needed to be done. The carpet has been treated 1 other time because it was deflating again. It started doing that after I started feeding it. I haven't fed it since but will probably start again with smaller portions. My main tank is in shambles right now because I've been fragging everything for my new nano. I'll be rescaping my main tank this week.
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blackwagon
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The other mag passed 2 days ago. The carpet is huge again without the mag in the tank. I'll probably never put mags and gigs in the same system again.
cali9dub
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One thing I found out is that it's better not to be greedy. One healthy nem is better than wiping 2 or 3 out by wanting multiples. They can be so touchy !!
blackwagon
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I don't think quarantine would have done anything for me other than finding out I can't put mags in the same tank as my gig. The big one was at the lfs for a month and looked good for a while in my tank. The anemones would cycle on and off on which ones would look better every week or so. I'm talking about a 18" gig and 18" mag switching back and forth from 18" to 10". I feel like there was a battle going on and the gig won. I wanted to setup a separate tank for the mags but at the time I had no time. Since the mags have passed my gig looks normal again.
I only got the mags because I read on here that someone was successful with them in the same tank. I'll be taking everything I read on a forum with a spoon full of salt from now on instead of just a grain.
I post my success as well as failures so we can all learn from each other. I know adding mags to my gig tank was a failure for me.
I only got the mags because I read on here that someone was successful with them in the same tank. I'll be taking everything I read on a forum with a spoon full of salt from now on instead of just a grain.
I post my success as well as failures so we can all learn from each other. I know adding mags to my gig tank was a failure for me.
blackwagon
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I just got this back from my friends tank. I might have to do another treatment. I’m going to let it settle a couple days and see what’s up. It’s about 1/4 of the size it use to be at its biggest.
