Golan's 90G Reef
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Gooli
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Hi Gooliver - your tank is making me very envious...I'm moving slowly on mine...have it filled with saltwater now, the sump in the basement is working fine BUT the noise in the overflow is too much to handle. I got rid of the "gurgling" and up/down by repositioning the aga megaflow durso, but I'm getting a constant water flowing sound that I can't get rid of.
I have a Mag18 returning water up about 9' with about 2' horizontally...according to the head loss calc that would give me about 961 gph, which is what I figured. I knew I'd be pushing that single 1" drain..but my feeling based on reading other sites is that the 1" just isn't big enough, so I may need to conver the 3/4" return into a 2nd overflow, and route the return up to another 3/4" return (I already have a Y with two returns now, one built-in and the other off to the side).
Gooliver as it stands now are you using that 3/4" return as a 2nd drain? I thought you capped it at some point and changed your aga megaflow durso to a diy durso and fixed whatever problem you were having with the overflow. Is that right?
I have a Mag18 returning water up about 9' with about 2' horizontally...according to the head loss calc that would give me about 961 gph, which is what I figured. I knew I'd be pushing that single 1" drain..but my feeling based on reading other sites is that the 1" just isn't big enough, so I may need to conver the 3/4" return into a 2nd overflow, and route the return up to another 3/4" return (I already have a Y with two returns now, one built-in and the other off to the side).
Gooliver as it stands now are you using that 3/4" return as a 2nd drain? I thought you capped it at some point and changed your aga megaflow durso to a diy durso and fixed whatever problem you were having with the overflow. Is that right?
gooliver said:
Gooliver - sorry I was referring to the drain ... are you using two dursos , one on the 1" and the other on the 3/4"? I think you're doing 3/4" all the way up to a seaswirl, rigtht? I think I need more flow capacity down to the sump to eliminate the noise, but not sure.
gooliver said:
smoknreefrs
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less flow down to the sump usally stops the noise....5-10 times an hour is more than enough flow through the sump
Hey gooliver and others..the adventure continues. What is the saying this hobby requires patience? Not me, at least not tonight with disasterous results.
So I moved around some plumbing in the basement to insert a ball valve to try to slow down the flow upstairs to see if it would quiet the drain. Was able to insert a new ball valve, everything on the return was snug, or so I thought. Turned on the pump, there was of course some leakage as I thought tehre would be, but when trying to adjust the ball valve BAM the pipe came loose and I had tons of water flowing into my face. Quick turn off the power switch...
Round 2: Use duct tape as a temporary means to hold the PVC together on the return. Turn it on, asking (yelling) upstairs for my wife to tell me if it is any quieter, she is watching TV and no help at all. So I'm running back and forth between adjustments... On the 4th adjustment, there is a muffled POP, the middle return tank flashes with blue light...power shuts off (GFCI breaker)... turns out when the water shot out in the 1st round, combined with the leakage that was controlled but significant int he 2nd round, water level fell below the water heater, which I forgot to turn off! So at some point it turned ON, glass cracked and POP everything went out on that circuit.
Anyway lesson here is I think I'm putting my heater not in the return chamber, probably in the PS chamber. Another lesson think things through, and yet another nothing I did seem to have a huge impact on the sound, or at least that's what I think. So I did all of that perhaps for nothing.
So I moved around some plumbing in the basement to insert a ball valve to try to slow down the flow upstairs to see if it would quiet the drain. Was able to insert a new ball valve, everything on the return was snug, or so I thought. Turned on the pump, there was of course some leakage as I thought tehre would be, but when trying to adjust the ball valve BAM the pipe came loose and I had tons of water flowing into my face. Quick turn off the power switch...
Round 2: Use duct tape as a temporary means to hold the PVC together on the return. Turn it on, asking (yelling) upstairs for my wife to tell me if it is any quieter, she is watching TV and no help at all. So I'm running back and forth between adjustments... On the 4th adjustment, there is a muffled POP, the middle return tank flashes with blue light...power shuts off (GFCI breaker)... turns out when the water shot out in the 1st round, combined with the leakage that was controlled but significant int he 2nd round, water level fell below the water heater, which I forgot to turn off! So at some point it turned ON, glass cracked and POP everything went out on that circuit.
Anyway lesson here is I think I'm putting my heater not in the return chamber, probably in the PS chamber. Another lesson think things through, and yet another nothing I did seem to have a huge impact on the sound, or at least that's what I think. So I did all of that perhaps for nothing.
gooliver said:
Yeah fun indeed, I was really close to getting lr and starting a cycle this weekend...problem is I can live with the noise but my wife cannot! it really is quite loud...minor setback but in general everything is still working (just put it all back together the way it was and tested the pump), and thank goodness the GFCI on the dedicated circuit for the aquarium worked.
JustOneMoreTank
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Ha! Sorry to hear of your troubles. You will get it running well soon. Just keep at it. Yes the GFCI is absolutely mandatory and you have now seen why.
Hopefully you can get that thing quieted down so that the Mrs. can enjoy the tank as well. Good luck.
Hopefully you can get that thing quieted down so that the Mrs. can enjoy the tank as well. Good luck.
JustOneMoreTank said:Ha! Sorry to hear of your troubles. You will get it running well soon. Just keep at it. Yes the GFCI is absolutely mandatory and you have now seen why.
Hopefully you can get that thing quieted down so that the Mrs. can enjoy the tank as well. Good luck.
Thanks for the encouragement...as I type this my new p-trap installed right under the drain is drying. Adding a p-trap to reduce the noise was recommended by about 4 other folks...so I'll give it a whirl, if it doesn't work it's only $10 "down the drain".
I put everything in the basement back together, and it is all in perfect condition as it was before, of course minus the broken heater. :-(
When I get everything going I'll post some pics of my system.
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