H&S Skimmer Club

[Fliger]

Jim sorry I don't have a measurement. It is pretty high though. I'm sure Brian can get that for you. Here are a couple pix and I believe that sump was 18" tall

Its taller than a Sparklett's jug!

TGI - drilling the hole is a piece of cake! Lots of people have done some nice DIY's to drain their big needlewheels. Just need a holesaw bit or a dremel.

 

[thedigitalimager]

I'm curious as to the type of fitting people are using for the DIY drains. Anyone have a part description or number?

 

[pili]

I just got my A110-F2000 today but i think that they sent the wrong size pump with it.

 

[i2ik]

They send you the bigger one which is used for the F2001...
You should contact the store to ship you the good one..

 

[pili]

yeah, thats what i thought. I got it from finsreef so i will give them a call either tonight or tommorow.

 

[Zoom]

Is that an optical illusion or the top fitting that suppose to be glued on the skimmer body is unglue?

 

[pili]

Haha, i just noticed that also. Its just an optical illusion, the pipe insnt glued though where it enters the the inner tube (no need though).

 

[jnb]

I drilled and fitted in a drain - I like to see the cup skimate grow so I put the valve below going into the gallon jug. And drain when I get home. If I am not there and the skimate gets to the red lvel which it will not unless an event causes the skimmer to go wild, it goes into the sump by reaching the level B and escapes - this way, if the skimmer goes real crazy, it will not let the auto top off put to much kalk water into the system. Next I will work on letting the overflow go into a cup of sorts with a float valve to turn off the skimmer venturi until I get home...

 

[thedigitalimager]

jnb, thanks for the description and photo. That definitely gives me some ideas. I never really took into consideration the skimmer's effect on the auto top off. I haven't had an event to make the skimmer go crazy, but it's definitely something to plan for.

 

[Andy]

What H&S skimmer would you guys recommend for a heavily stocked 280 gallon sps reef. I was looking at the A200-2X1260. Could I get away with either the internal 200-2X1260 or the A200-1260.

Thanks.

 

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6680695#post6680695 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by arconom
Jim your slowly getting the itch

I know Erik And there's only one way to scratch that itch.....

Jim

 

[djfrankie]

How come H&S does not have a forum of their own?

djfrankie

 

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6680748#post6680748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fliger
Jim sorry I don't have a measurement. It is pretty high though. I'm sure Brian can get that for you. Here are a couple pix and I believe that sump was 18" tall

Its taller than a Sparklett's jug!

TGI - drilling the hole is a piece of cake! Lots of people have done some nice DIY's to drain their big needlewheels. Just need a holesaw bit or a dremel.

Thanks Fliger. I spoke with someone named Eric over at Finsreef. He was very helpful. The output is 18" or 19" on the a200-1260. It is a bit higher than the hole I have drilled in my sump, but I can always run the return down towards the hole. I asked Doug about a custom 702, but the output on that model is only 11". I'd have to raise the skimmer up too high to fit under my stand in order to match up the hole with the return.

The one thing I am very concernd about was the amount of foam in the skimmer body of the a200-1260. In one of the shots posted by jnd it only appears to be 1/2 full. Any thoughts on this?

Jim

 

[jnb]

I asked when I got mine pointing out a picture of a 1260 times 2 and its just the way it is - I guess the size, length, diameter, etc (mostly of the neck leading up to the cup) of the skimmer is built to best take advantagte of the one times 1260. I asked what if we installed another 1260 on that skimmer and Brian said, if I am not mistaken, that the up pressure of addional 4 or so inches in body would be too much for the neck, etc to handle. So, now I assume that despite the body bubble level, the skimmer is optimized for one times 1260 - and I have no complaints - it just does not have the extra skimming capacity of the 2times 1260. If its enough for your tank, all things considered, I am sure Brian can help make a decision. I feel mine has significant additional capacity on my tank when/if I increase feedings, bioload, etc. One pump = less noise (bubble suction, etc), less to go wrong, less electricity.....

If this is for your 125 - 1260*1 should be more, more than enough in my opinion not taking into consideration if you are going to get an additional itch to a larger tank

The one thing I am very concernd about was the amount of foam in the skimmer body of the a200-1260. In one of the shots posted by jnd it only appears to be 1/2 full. Any thoughts on this?

Jim [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[ReefSalt]

I see that with some setups that its only 1/2 full mine is 3/4 full and the valves are almost full open.Looks like its not properly adjusted I adjusted one at a store I go to and voila 3/4 + full.

 

[jnb]

accoring to Brian, the level in the body of my 200 1260 is the expected - and I see no way to increase it and don't think I could - my pump is pulling the expected amt of air too - so I still say the one times 1260 body bubble level is not compromised in mine at 1/2

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6692609#post6692609 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ReefSalt
I see that with some setups that its only 1/2 full mine is 3/4 full and the valves are almost full open.Looks like its not properly adjusted I adjusted one at a store I go to and voila 3/4 + full.

 

[Jim_S]

Thanks guys. Could you put a 45 on the inside if the skimmer on the pump return? This will push more foam down into the body.

Jim

 

[jnb]

yes, you could but you should talk with brian - not us about modifying a skimmer that is already assumed to be highy tunable without such modifications - I can only imagine they would have done this if it was beneficial

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6693211#post6693211 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jimdogg187
Thanks guys. Could you put a 45 on the inside if the skimmer on the pump return? This will push more foam down into the body.

Jim

 

[Fliger]

One thing thats funny about these pumps is that when you cut the air intake back, the bodies look MORE full. I can't remember why - I don't know if its because the bubbles get smaller, or because it makes the skimmers work harder (watts go up) and it increases turbulence. Air intake does decrease, I have an air meter. But it definitely "looks" more full with less air. I am currently borrowing a friend's 702 and its the same thing. If you take the valves off - a little less than the top half or so has bubbles. But if you turn the valves down, the skimmer looks more full. It was the same on the 3x1260. On the 2x1260, no matter what you do the body is full. As Reefsalt can probably verify, if you take the air clamps off the 3x1260, the bubbles will actually be up closer to the top. IME, it didn't affect performance, it skimmed crap right outta the tank either way.

Deltecs do have a 45 on some models. It does force the air downward. Far as I can tell it doesn't make it work any better - when you compare the A200 2x1260 to the 702, the H&S is far more dense. But when you look at the pic above and say an 851 - the 851 seems to have more air. It doesn't, it actually has less air I think (I've read most 851 users turn down the air) - it just appears that way.

You can talk to Brian about having a custom A200 1x1260. I've talked to him about it. You can have it cut shorter - I think a couple inches taller than the 701 would work well. HTH.

Hey both my wife and I were ad folks in SF. We were at BBDO & McCann if you know the SF ad scene. Miss that place!

 

[blgreef]

any chance of a picture of the input attachment on the ehiem units, the venturi and also the front of the pump (water input side)

I have an ehiem pump and the impeller and would like to see if i could change one of my abaubee pumps to the ehiem.