Has other nems besides btas have split?

It is not credibility I am attacking just the certainty and over-confidence. Mostly form those who with more experience will also aquire more humility as many firmly held beliefs are deconstructed. Those with 1 or 2 years or less in the hobby read the forums and repeat what they read with out qualifiers. This confuses and discourages newer hobbiests.

If you have been around a while you have seen many trends, fashions, in this hobby come and go. This will not stop. What I know is that many of my experiences are completely contrary to the current "wisdom."

- Mark
 
good answer but...

i think oscar wilde said it best...

"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
 
H. magnifica, as has been posted, sometimes split in aquaria (as mine did in Nov. 2006). It's not so odd that a single anemone would spawn. If conditions are right, they will indeed--and likely stress could also trigger spawning. I've had M. doreensis spawn--not because of stress, it was just a big, fat happy anemone. I've had BTA's spawn, fairly often. And, I had a female H. aurora spawn several years ago.
 
I have learned to never say never.

I think the "overconfidence" comes from the sheer rarity of anenomes other than E. quadricolor splitting. Having contact with dozens of different species of anenomes over the years, I have only seen the BTAs split. Of course, I have "helped" other anenomes split successfully with a really sharp object. I know that I for one would love to get ahold of a strain of LTA that splits in a captive system. You are quite fortunate indeed.

Great thread.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12748570#post12748570 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MM WI
Really, thats great, a carpet splitting, tell me, the pictures I see of these look just like a small haddoni, how do you distinquish the Tapetum from a smaller haddoni? I am not familier with these, I see a picture of one that looks about eight inches across, what colors to they come in? I cant recall seeing them for sale either. - Mark
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here is mine pre-split...approximately 5" across..
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WOW, that is a beauty, When I first started looking at these after your post, i found a pic that had these along side purple haddoni and thought the small haddoni was what they were talking about. then i found several photos that showed examples far less attractive than yours. Where can I find one with color like this? - Mark
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12760519#post12760519 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MM WI
WOW, that is a beauty, When I first started looking at these after your post, i found a pic that had these along side purple haddoni and thought the small haddoni was what they were talking about. then i found several photos that showed examples far less attractive than yours. Where can I find one with color like this? - Mark
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LOL not sure...mine was a hitch hiker on a zoa colony..
 
In the wild it is common to see colonies of H. magnifica with hundreds or thousands of clones. They split all the time. In different parts of their range they split more or less. In Tahiti splitting is common and in Fiji it is less common. The best place to look for a LTA is near another LTA. Usually you can find one or two small LTA near a big one. Presumably the small ones are clones of the big one. LTA's don't split very often in tanks, presumably something is missing from what they like best. Maybe Mark just has a better system than everyone else so his anemone did better. Or his anemone might have been more inclined to split for natural reasons. It is hard to tell since LTA are generally hard to keep. In any case, Mark did well with his. BTA anemones also form very large clones with hundreds to thousands of individuals.
 
Ok, I have a question.... I posted a picutre of what I was told is a BTA. It has never bubbled nor has it grown any in the 8 months that I have had it. I recently upgraded my son's tank from a 24 gallon biocube to a 34 gallon Solana. After the change over this is where the BTA ended up. A few days later I saw a very small, and I mean about a 1/4 of the size of the tip of my pinky, anemone next to this one. You can barely see it to the left side of the BTA in the picture. Now here is the question, is this a very small split or is it spawning. Don't laugh, I am still very new to all of this.:D
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Can not make a judgement from the pic alone, this could be just a newly noticed hitch hicker from live rock or coral. Anemones can reproduce by vetetative routes likes splitting or budding. Budding is plausable, if it looks more and more like your other anemone as it grows budding would be likely. If not it is more likely a hitch hicker from live rock or coral. Budding is the formation of new smaller individual from the base of the parent anemone. Splitting most often results in two very similiarly sized individuals niether of which could be called a parent.
- Mark
 
Thank you, I have never heard of budding before. Funny little thing has only floated around the sand bed but no more than 2" away from my bigger one. when I went to take the picture I actually had a hard time finding it, was about to give up when I noticed it at the base of the other one. Will be interesting to see if it grows or not. Again thank you :)
 
I was not and am not the only person who believes the anemone Mark refers to as an LTA was indeed a BTA. Look up the thread, pictures, and information, and make your own decision. I've made mine, and I'm not the only one.

Having never kept an anemone myself is certainly not relevant to the quality of my eyesight or cognitive abilities. :rolleyes:

I'm reasonably certain that neither of you have ever owned an aircraft, yet with a little bit of research you would have no problems identifying a Cessna from a Boeing.
 
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Dude, why bring this back up?

I also believe that it is an BTA. But even after keeping both an LTA and many BTAs, I am not 100% certain, as you claimed to be. My point was that after keeping anemones for a number of years I have learned two things:

1. the books, and many posters on the boards, are oft incorrect.
2. When it comes to anemones, there are almost no certainties. You can only be certain of the things that you have EXPERIENCED as an anemone keeper.

In terms of your analogy, I may be able to make the I.D. on the aircraft, but I sure as hell wouldn't go on a pilot forum and argue with experienced pilots about it.

You have argued with me in the past about how much light is needed to keep a BTA. Telling me that the light that I ACTUALLY used, wasn't enough. Gimme a break! You also argued about how old an aquarium has to be to hold an anemone, while I can honestly say that I have never added an anemone to a tank more than 1 month old .... lol.

There are many ways to skin a cat, and the beauty of the internet forums is that you can learn how other people have been successful.

You obviously love anemones, and have spent a tremendous amount of time researching them. Just go out and buy one, and share your experiences with us so we can grow as hobbiests.
 
I bring it back up because I find it inappropriate for people to make personal attacks on other people on forums, with little to no knowledge of that person other than what they've decided to share. I guess it's hard to accept that someone with less hands-on experience than you might actually have a good point.

As you've said, there are many ways to skin a cat. Some may choose to dive right in and try to skin the cat with little prior knowledge of the art of cat skinning, while others prefer to learn all they can before trying it on the real thing. The first may be better at skinning cats in a shorter timeframe, but the second person will have a better understanding of cat skinning, and will have ruined far fewer pelts.

I'll be waiting until my system is stable/mature enough to have a reasonably high chance of actually sustaining an anemone. Rest assured that there will be a journey of the anemone's progress once the time is right.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12802575#post12802575 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Slakker
I bring it back up because I find it inappropriate for people to make personal attacks on other people on forums, with little to no knowledge of that person other than what they've decided to share. I guess it's hard to accept that someone with less hands-on experience than you might actually have a good point.

As you've said, there are many ways to skin a cat. Some may choose to dive right in and try to skin the cat with little prior knowledge of the art of cat skinning, while others prefer to learn all they can before trying it on the real thing. The first may be better at skinning cats in a shorter timeframe, but the second person will have a better understanding of cat skinning, and will have ruined far fewer pelts.

I'll be waiting until my system is stable/mature enough to have a reasonably high chance of actually sustaining an anemone. Rest assured that there will be a journey of the anemone's progress once the time is right.
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Well, you certainly come up with the most hillarious analogies, I give you that:D

My piece(s) of advice for when you decide to buy your anemone: tank maturity isn't measured in time. It is a state fuction and indeed path independent. Reefkeeper maturity, stability, are important and second only to finding a healthy animal. As you will find, healthy anemones of any species are nearly indestructible, and will be the hardiest creature in your tank. Good luck.

I apologize for attacking you in this thread, as it was indeed inappropriate. It was in response to other threads where you have rather harshly admonished anemone keepers for making what you thought to be incorrect choices. My critisism has no place here.

Back to regular programming!
 
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