Hecteractis Magnifica Propagation

Thanks, how's your Magnifica doing now?

Post a pic!

It's doing great, 2nd day of treatment.

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Running into the first problems. I suspect from a new Mag I recently put in the DT. He's was thriving, but woke up this morning and found him like this. I have not clue what happened. Either way, he was removed from the system. May be too late, because it's looking like the one on the LT has caught it.




 
I've got the sick NEM responding already. Starting to inflate just a little. He's got a pink mouth and column and electric lime green between tentacles. I can't wait to see this one grown out. I've never seen this color before.




 
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I wanted to show you guys some pics of this NEM when I first got him. You won't believe it's the same one, but it absolutely is. :-)













 
Just out of curiosity, are you pulling the nem off the rock from the DT and putting it in the HT on an other rock, or are you pulling out the nem together with the rock from the DT to the HT?
 
Just out of curiosity, are you pulling the nem off the rock from the DT and putting it in the HT on an other rock, or are you pulling out the nem together with the rock from the DT to the HT?

I used to have all my rock bonded together. Now they're all loose. I usually take the nem and the rock from the DT and put both into HT. When a mag or gig is sick, don't remove them from the rock unless you absolutely have to. It could be the difference between life and death.
 
I asked because mine is perched on top of the highest rock, but it would be close to impossible to remove the rock without drastically impacting aquascaping and other inverts. Knock on wood I won't have to move it to the HT anytime soon.

One question though, after dosing with cipro don't you think the rocks might cause issues if placed back in the DT?
 
I asked because mine is perched on top of the highest rock, but it would be close to impossible to remove the rock without drastically impacting aquascaping and other inverts. Knock on wood I won't have to move it to the HT anytime soon.

One question though, after dosing with cipro don't you think the rocks might cause issues if placed back in the DT?

I've been PM'ed a few times with that same question. Minh may be able to give a better answer than I can. I'll just tell you what I know from personal experience and observation.

I've had coral, inverts, and fish all survive under heavy antibiotic treatment.

I've never once had an issue putting a rock back in the tank.

Nothing has ever reacted from it as far as I know.



About your rock, if you can't remove it just take the NEM off. The only thing about removing them is that you can cause some trauma.

I remove mine with a very thin butter knife. Once I get under one part of the foot, I work my around. It's a lot easier to have a loose rock that you can hold upside down in the water as you begin to get under the foot to remove him. Then they just fall and slowly sink. 95% of the time, I can remove really easily like that and not cause any damage.
 
Cipro breaks down in light, doesn't bind the rock like copper. Other antibiotics can be skimmed out, naturally break down or just replaced with water changes.

On that note, please don't dose your DT, the bacterial fallout won't be pleasant. Couple rocks is one thing, wiping out an entire established biological filter is another thing.
 
Cipro breaks down in light, doesn't bind the rock like copper. Other antibiotics can be skimmed out, naturally break down or just replaced with water changes.

On that note, please don't dose your DT, the bacterial fallout won't be pleasant. Couple rocks is one thing, wiping out an entire established biological filter is another thing.

True that!

Chemi-clean is a gram negative antibiotic (Erythromycin) that people use for Cyano bacteria in DT. Your sandbed is composed of gram negative bacteria which is why chemiclean works so well. You must read and follow the instructions carefully though. Otherwise, the results could be too good. :-)

Having a good skimmer to handle the sudden dose of biomass is almost a must. You can still have heavy die-off of unwanted bacteria, that will take out your tank from utter biomass if you have an under rated skimmer.

Rule of thumb: Always dose antibiotics in HT/QT and never in your display!!!
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So don't have a bunch of the same nems in the DT?

You can have a bunch of mags, but an established tank with stable parameters is key. If one mag gets sick, you should remove immedately. I know for absolute certainty, that Magnifica definetly pass infection to each other. The reason why mine got infected is simple. I had healthy mags that were already fully QT'ed and established I'm my aquarium for months. I got the four new mags, and they looked so good that I decided not to treat. One may have already had infection but wasn't showing signs yet. Just like the pic above. That mag was already infected but still fully inflated. In just 12 hours he was down and completely deflated. I've noticed that when one gets it, it can take 12-48 hours and another one will get it. I'll never add new Magnifica to my tank again without a week of observation in QT. I think they get infection from being stressed and their body cannot fight it off like a healthy NEM can. They are super sensitive and being very careful not to stress them or create any changes in water chemistry will keep them from getting sick IMO. I've noticed that if their size changes enough were you can tell something doesn't look right, they are infected and need to be removed ASAP. The question I'm trying to figure out us if they are showing very minor signs of being sick and I catch it quickly and remove him from the system, will it be quick enough for the infection to not spread to others?
 
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