Hello, Geezer coming back to this forum. Paul B
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Welcome back.Another old timer checking in after a long absence. Lol, although not nearly as chatty as Paul B.
Vinny Kreyling
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Thanks for your service Paul.
Paul B
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In the 7 years since I wrote my book I have attended a few conferences put on by neurologists. My wife has MS so we get invited to these things all the time. The last one was about stress and how it lowers our immunity and gives us all sorts of other afflictions including what I consider the most interesting, shortens our (and I assume fish) lifespans.
How does stress do this? It is actually simple. Our bodies make Cortisol. We exude it from our adrenal gland constantly and it gives us energy for various tasks. Our bodies use it as the day goes by.
If we for instance are being chased by a rhinoceros, Model T Ford or Henry Winkler, our Adrenalin gland would pump out a lot of cortisol to give us energy.
Cortisol dissolves some of the calcium in our bones for our energy. and turns some muscle into sugar for energy.
These are good things especially when we were always in danger of being eaten by something.
But cortisol has some big problems to. When our bodies produce it but can't use it it also brings out dormant diseases, lowers our immunity, lowers our sex drive and a whole lot of other things. But the worst thing it does is shorten our life span.
The way it does that is because there is this thing on the ends of every chromosome in every cell of our bodies. This thing is called a telemere. As we grow and age our chromosomes need to divide and different creatures do this at different time spans.
The telemere at the end of each chromosome is like the "aglet" on the end of our shoelace and it keeps that chromosome from unraveling so it protects it. But every time the chromosome divides the telemere gets shorter until there is no more of it left and the chromosome degrades and can no longer divide. That is the end of our lifespan and in Humans happens at about age 80 or so.
That is why everything has a lifespan and can't live forever.
Cortisol is called the stress hormone because stress causes us to make more cortisol and if we are not physically running for our life, our muscles can't use that cortisol so it builds up.
The main problem with this is that it shortens those telemeres shortening our and I assume a fishes lifespan.
Fish experience stress in a tank but really experience it in a tank not set up like the ocean such as a bare quarantine tank with PVC elbows from Home Depot and fish not getting the food they recognize.
So (and I am speculating here as I am an electrician and not a fish physiologist) if a fish has a normal lifespan of 10 years and we get that fish 2 years old. 72 days in quarantine with copper will make that fish create a lot of cortisol which will shorten it's lifespan. How much? No one knows because all fish are different and fish are built much differently than most of us.
But I think that is the main reason that I have not been able to find even one fully quarantined tank or fish that is very old. But of course I am guessing.
If all of our fish are not mainly dying of only old age, we are failing and doing something wrong.
Just my opinion of course.
How does stress do this? It is actually simple. Our bodies make Cortisol. We exude it from our adrenal gland constantly and it gives us energy for various tasks. Our bodies use it as the day goes by.
If we for instance are being chased by a rhinoceros, Model T Ford or Henry Winkler, our Adrenalin gland would pump out a lot of cortisol to give us energy.
Cortisol dissolves some of the calcium in our bones for our energy. and turns some muscle into sugar for energy.
These are good things especially when we were always in danger of being eaten by something.
But cortisol has some big problems to. When our bodies produce it but can't use it it also brings out dormant diseases, lowers our immunity, lowers our sex drive and a whole lot of other things. But the worst thing it does is shorten our life span.
The way it does that is because there is this thing on the ends of every chromosome in every cell of our bodies. This thing is called a telemere. As we grow and age our chromosomes need to divide and different creatures do this at different time spans.
The telemere at the end of each chromosome is like the "aglet" on the end of our shoelace and it keeps that chromosome from unraveling so it protects it. But every time the chromosome divides the telemere gets shorter until there is no more of it left and the chromosome degrades and can no longer divide. That is the end of our lifespan and in Humans happens at about age 80 or so.
That is why everything has a lifespan and can't live forever.
Cortisol is called the stress hormone because stress causes us to make more cortisol and if we are not physically running for our life, our muscles can't use that cortisol so it builds up.
The main problem with this is that it shortens those telemeres shortening our and I assume a fishes lifespan.
Fish experience stress in a tank but really experience it in a tank not set up like the ocean such as a bare quarantine tank with PVC elbows from Home Depot and fish not getting the food they recognize.
So (and I am speculating here as I am an electrician and not a fish physiologist) if a fish has a normal lifespan of 10 years and we get that fish 2 years old. 72 days in quarantine with copper will make that fish create a lot of cortisol which will shorten it's lifespan. How much? No one knows because all fish are different and fish are built much differently than most of us.
But I think that is the main reason that I have not been able to find even one fully quarantined tank or fish that is very old. But of course I am guessing.
If all of our fish are not mainly dying of only old age, we are failing and doing something wrong.
Just my opinion of course.
Paul B
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I am going to a dermatologist/plastic surgeon this morning because this Dr. found a freckle under my eye that he tested and said it is cancer.
He also removed a "freckle" under my arm yesterday that Dr. Dogie Howser said was "questionable".
At that time Dugie and a Supermodel assistant numbed my arm with some novocaine or Prizapro and made an incision. He kept talking and said that he was going to make a diamond shaped incision. His assistant was asking "why not make a square" incision?
They were going on and on about the shape and depth of the incision until I said, Look, I don't care if you make an incision that resembles Angelina Jolie or Mount Rushmore. Just cut the thing out, rub some Rowaphas on it and let me out of here because I got fish to feed.
He also removed a "freckle" under my arm yesterday that Dr. Dogie Howser said was "questionable".
At that time Dugie and a Supermodel assistant numbed my arm with some novocaine or Prizapro and made an incision. He kept talking and said that he was going to make a diamond shaped incision. His assistant was asking "why not make a square" incision?
They were going on and on about the shape and depth of the incision until I said, Look, I don't care if you make an incision that resembles Angelina Jolie or Mount Rushmore. Just cut the thing out, rub some Rowaphas on it and let me out of here because I got fish to feed.
Paul B
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The freckle under my eye turned out to be cancer so they will remove it but they want to sew my eye closed for 2 weeks while it heals. I have to think about this for a while as I decide which pirate I want to look like with that patch on there. 
On a lighter note:
Thank you to all who bought my book. I was just able to donate the profits. $500.00 to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society in my wife's name.
I will post the receipt when they send it.
On a lighter note:
Thank you to all who bought my book. I was just able to donate the profits. $500.00 to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society in my wife's name.
I will post the receipt when they send it.
Paul B
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I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving We are going out tonight to City Island which is a small Island off the Bronx which is all sea food restaurants and is famous for that. I will have my traditional clams for a pre Thanksgiving feast. 
Then to the Grand Kids in lower Manhattan.
Yesterday I went to a doctor to get some stitches removed from the back of my arm that Dugie Howser said he needed to remove.
He said, Oh No, you have to wait 5 more days to remove these.
I said, Like, why did your office tell me to come in today as I don't live around the corner and I am sure you knew how long stitches had to stay in before you removed them.
This place is in Hampton Bays about 40 minutes from me.
They want me to come back in a week but of course that ain't gonna happen so now I have to remove them myself. The problem is they are on the back of my right arm where I can't see so I am getting my friend to do it. I wonder if my insurance takes his bill?
PS. I got a different doctor to remove this "freckle" on my eyelid and that will happen in January.
They call it a surgery but if I could take my screaming, I would do it myself as they make a big deal out of the stupidest things.
We are going out tonight to City Island which is a small Island off the Bronx which is all sea food restaurants and is famous for that. I will have my traditional clams for a pre Thanksgiving feast. Then to the Grand Kids in lower Manhattan.Yesterday I went to a doctor to get some stitches removed from the back of my arm that Dugie Howser said he needed to remove.
He said, Oh No, you have to wait 5 more days to remove these.
I said, Like, why did your office tell me to come in today as I don't live around the corner and I am sure you knew how long stitches had to stay in before you removed them.
This place is in Hampton Bays about 40 minutes from me.
They want me to come back in a week but of course that ain't gonna happen so now I have to remove them myself. The problem is they are on the back of my right arm where I can't see so I am getting my friend to do it. I wonder if my insurance takes his bill?
PS. I got a different doctor to remove this "freckle" on my eyelid and that will happen in January.
They call it a surgery but if I could take my screaming, I would do it myself as they make a big deal out of the stupidest things.
Vinny Kreyling
Premium Member
Happy Thanksgiving Paul.
I will have to meet up with you so I can get a crash course in amphipod collection.
Let me know when is a good time someday when I don't have to get up before dawn.
I will have to meet up with you so I can get a crash course in amphipod collection.
Let me know when is a good time someday when I don't have to get up before dawn.
Paul B
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I found this on this thread from 2014:
We did actually downsize and move to a condo. We also did take some long cruises on our boat and much larger boats on a river through Europe. I don't use Clorox any longer in my new water because I have a much better source for water now and I forgot that I used to make food from Plaster of Paris mixed with I think Bananas, clams and other things to feed my moorish Idol and some butterflyfish.
Paul B
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So yesterday I broke my 2 front teeth. One is a temp until an implant sets so he took a cap off the next one and had a temp made of the two teeth. Of course it broke in half leaving a vertical, dagger that is sharp as a razor and it is cutting into my lip. I think it's a law that these things only happen on a Sunday.
I can't glue it back because it is kind of in a few pieces so I will try to grind off the sharp parts so I don't make a hole in my face from the inside.
I also need to remove about 8 stitches from the back of my arm but my friend who was going to do it today is in the hospital now with his wife.
We went out to breakfast and she fell pretty hard so he won't be back for a while.
If doctors and dentists knew what they were doing, I wouldn't have these issues that I now have to resolve myself.
I think my dentist went to Evelin Woods quick Dentist school.
I can't glue it back because it is kind of in a few pieces so I will try to grind off the sharp parts so I don't make a hole in my face from the inside.
I also need to remove about 8 stitches from the back of my arm but my friend who was going to do it today is in the hospital now with his wife.
We went out to breakfast and she fell pretty hard so he won't be back for a while.
If doctors and dentists knew what they were doing, I wouldn't have these issues that I now have to resolve myself.
I think my dentist went to Evelin Woods quick Dentist school.
SantaMonica
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Hope the teeth come along in a manageable fashion.
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Nice to see you checking in Ken.
Best of luck Paul.
