Help, anemone looking weird

First of all, all of you stop saying things on this forum unless you are 100% sure, or admit your not sure. Anemones have a symbiotic relationship with a type of algae called zooxanthelee Ik that is spelled wrong, but basically the algae lives int he nem and the nem gets food from the algae. The algae gives the nem it's color. This is why bleached anemones are so bad because the anemones can't support themselves because of no zooxanthelee, this is the only time feeding is mandatory and if you look at the pics his anemone is black not white. This means the nem is in distress but DOES NOT need to be fed, the food will just rot in it and cause infection, this isn't an opinion it's fact. Btas especially don't need food if they aren't bleached, the only reason people feed them is if they are healthy food will make them grow more but NOT make them healthier. Regardless don't feed this nem until it has its full color back and is thriving on its own
 
Ok boss, that's what am trying to do, she was in the same cave as my starfish, and peppermint shrimp, is it possible that one of them is been harassing her?
 
Just an fyi, they are not photosynthetic. They need green algae to do that....the question is if the tank is established enough. If you think I'm wrong go check out the national geographic page on anemones.

No this is NOT correct. They need zooxanthellae and because of them they ARE photosynthetic. I think you need to go do some research on them, other than where you are looking. Look up the symbiotic relationship of zooxanthellae and anemone's. You might just learn the truth.
 
On the nipping part, no, but he was terrorizing all my fishes for about 1 week, and they were all hiring, now is being two weeks and they are just fine, but no, no nipping just yet

How big is yours? Mine is only barely an inch long. He's outgoing that's for sure. But he's not aggressive towards other fish. I can also say he's not shy LOL He does nip at EVERYTHING nothing is safe. I only got this Cherub Angel because I heard they were the most "reef safe" of the dwarf angels. He's not eating them but nips as he passes them.
 
Ammo thanks bud I appreciated all u do, water believe me it is just fine, that's not the issue here, am 99% sure

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This is her just when the lights change to blue, any ideas?

That is normal usually after feeding but also sometimes after lights out.
 
First of all, all of you stop saying things on this forum unless you are 100% sure, or admit your not sure. Anemones have a symbiotic relationship with a type of algae called zooxanthelee Ik that is spelled wrong, but basically the algae lives int he nem and the nem gets food from the algae. The algae gives the nem it's color. This is why bleached anemones are so bad because the anemones can't support themselves because of no zooxanthelee, this is the only time feeding is mandatory and if you look at the pics his anemone is black not white. This means the nem is in distress but DOES NOT need to be fed, the food will just rot in it and cause infection, this isn't an opinion it's fact. Btas especially don't need food if they aren't bleached, the only reason people feed them is if they are healthy food will make them grow more but NOT make them healthier. Regardless don't feed this nem until it has its full color back and is thriving on its own

Most of us agree with you :beer:
 
I don't have a star, but this is the 3rd or 4th time I have seen him in the picture looking all innocent. Anybody have a serpent star that can help out on if they are Nem safe?
 
For those here that don't know what Zooxanthellae are:

Zooxanthellae… What's That?

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microscopic view of zooxanthellae

Tiny plant cells called zooxanthellae live within most types of coral polyps. They provide the coral with foods resulting from photosynthesis. Click the image for a larger view of these cells.

Most reef-building corals contain photosynthetic algae, called zooxanthellae, that live in their tissues. The corals and algae have a mutualistic relationship. The coral provides the algae with a protected environment and compounds they need for photosynthesis. In return, the algae produce oxygen and help the coral to remove wastes. Most importantly, zooxanthellae supply the coral with glucose, glycerol, and amino acids, which are the products of photosynthesis. The coral uses these products to make proteins, fats, and carbohydrates, and produce calcium carbonate (Barnes, R.D., 1987; Barnes, R.S.K. and Hughes, 1999; Lalli and Parsons, 1995; Levinton, 1995; Sumich, 1996). The relationship between the algae and coral polyp facilitates a tight recycling of nutrients in nutrient-poor tropical waters. In fact, as much as 90 percent of the organic material photosynthetically produced by the zooxanthellae is transferred to the host coral tissue (Sumich, 1996). This is the driving force behind the growth and productivity of coral reefs (Barnes, 1987; Levinton, 1995).

diagram of relationship between coral and zooxanthellae

Coral polyps, which are animals, and zooxanthellae, the plant cells that live within them, have a mutualistic relationship. Click the image to see an animation.

In addition to providing corals with essential nutrients, zooxanthellae are responsible for the unique and beautiful colors of many stony corals. Sometimes when corals become physically stressed, the polyps expel their algal cells and the colony takes on a stark white appearance. This is commonly described as “coral bleaching” (Barnes, R.S.K. and Hughes, 1999; Lalli and Parsons, 1995). If the polyps go for too long without zooxanthellae, coral bleaching can result in the coral's death.
Because of their intimate relationship with zooxanthellae, reef-building corals respond to the environment like plants. Because their algal cells need light for photosynthesis, reef corals require clear water. For this reason they are generally found only in waters with small amounts of suspended material, i.e., in water of low turbidity and low productivity. This leads to an interesting paradox—coral reefs require clear, nutrient-poor water, but they are among the most productive and diverse marine environments (Barnes, 1987).

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/kits/corals/coral02_zooxanthellae.html
 
Is say sinking but according to everyone else I'm wrong....even though if you don't have that algae you need to feed it.

Zooxanthellae don't live outside of their host for very long. This isn't normal green algae. The ONLY way you will get zooxanthellae into an anemone is to feed them tentacles from another healthy anemone. The only exception to this is if there are even a few of them left in the anemone that is bleached, if this is the case they can reproduce with light. In this case feeding is harsh on the host anemone due to how hard it is for them to process food when they are sick.
 
Just an fyi, they are not photosynthetic. They need green algae to do that....

Zooxanthellae is green algae

Is say sinking but according to everyone else I'm wrong....even though if you don't have that algae you need to feed it.

Miguel,

There isn't a lot of point to continue to argue with this guy, so I'll speak directly to you. It's your Nem and your decision on how you want to handle this. We're all telling you not to feed it, this guy who doesn't seem to understand what Zooxanthelle are and how they relate to Nems, is telling you to feed it.

So the decision is yours. From this point on I'm, going off the assumption you're not going to feed it and continue with trying to figure out if we can get this thing nursed back to health.
 
How big is yours? Mine is only barely an inch long. He's outgoing that's for sure. But he's not aggressive towards other fish. I can also say he's not shy LOL He does nip at EVERYTHING nothing is safe. I only got this Cherub Angel because I heard they were the most "reef safe" of the dwarf angels. He's not eating them but nips as he passes them.


Almost same size, mine does nip a lot, but usually just the rocks
 
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This might not prove anything but as u guys can see, my tank looks really healthy, once again, this is why I say the parameters are perfect, everything is doing phenomenon, plus tests came back perfect
 
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This might not prove anything but as u guys can see, my tank looks really healthy, once again, this is why I say the parameters are perfect, everything is doing phenomenon, plus tests came back perfect

But Miguel, you can't say your parameters are perfect if you don't test them. The major proof is in the numbers.
 
Is say sinking but according to everyone else I'm wrong....even though if you don't have that algae you need to feed it.

i agree with everyone else. you are mistaken and he should not try feeding it that will likely facilitate an earlier death of this anemone. it doesnt have the energy it requires to process solid foods and should be allowed time to photosenthesize its own food/energy. since it is not bleached it has all the zooanth it needs to do this. they will feed the nem through processing light while the anemone rests and begins to recover
 
Bravo I did test the parameters yesterday and they were good as I mention last night

all i have seen is calcium, alk, salinty all good
but you stated nit and phos at .25
what are nit??..... nitrate??.... nitrite????
if its nitrates at .25 then thats okay but if its nitrites at .25 then thats a big problem.
and .25 phosphates is high natural sea water runs .00___
what about ph?
what about ammonia?
and have you tested for copper? copper could do that to an anemone also.
 
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Bravo I did test the parameters yesterday and they were good as I mention last night

Miguel, I hate to say it but that picture isn't good at all. That looks like a melting nem. Keep a close eye on it and if it starts to "melt" get it out of your tank and into the garbage can as fast as you possibly can do it.
 
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