That first one has a bit of A. valida, but a bit more of A. granulosa!. The axiala are a bit too long for A. valida and the current thick branching with outward bowing branches is typical of A. granulosa. The radials are a bit hard ot see, but they do look more cup-like than tubular appressed.
The second is very attractive, but from this angle hard to ID. It may be A. paniculata or even A. jaquelinae. Do you have a top view ?