Holy Pricey Picasso's Batman!
- Thread starter dzeadow
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cartman5579
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I think the fad is slowly fading away!
powder blue boi
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i saw some on bonesreef.com for $200 a piece some were very nice but very pricey!
Agreend, market saturation at this time. It will pick up again in the spring.
Not to mention, so many specimens have issues with head, face, mouth development.
dzeadow
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is that likely due to inbreeding or just nutritional issues during grow out? It'd be nice to see the prices drop a little on these, I've been interested in getting a pair for a few months but it's not worth it to spend the money on them when you can get just as nice if not nicer Rod's Onyx's for much cheaper.
In my humble opinion, parental and larval nutrition, lack of culling, over crowding, water conditions, etc., etc., all contribute to the numbers of malformed CB fish.
Some specimens will be great, some will be junk regardless of the markings. Many folks don't care and strictly want the name and the coloration. More power to them :>)
dzeadow
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Yeah, I find it very hard to even think of ordering a fish like this from let's say saltwaterfish.com where you have to spend $150 before you can even buy a $100 fish, and not be able to see it. I'd be really PO'd if I got something that was malformed or not really visually stunning after spending $250, basically, to get a fish with a name.
Jovreefer
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I dont think your going to see any drastic drop in prices any time soon. Rods clowns are cheaper in part due to the fact that he says 90% of his clowns will become onyx. ORA says only 1% or less come out picasso. Bonesreef said he's getting about 30% picasso's from his spawns.
So if you look at the numbers that way rod can sell all of his offspring at $50-75 (or lower for younger clowns) Lets just say he sells all 100 clowns at the $50 price. Thats $5k profit!
Lets say ORA has 100 clowns too, they can only sell 1 at picasso prices & the rest will be "regular" percs at around $25 retail. Thats $2.5K profit, half of rods.
So... whats my point? It will be a LONG time before enough picasso's are breeding true to catch up to the demand on these little fish, Rod has plenty of onyx popping out twice a month for everyone.
Plus on top of ALL of that, you've got the pattern issue with picasso's, certian ones are always going to draw more money due to the amazing pattern.
Ok... I'll stop rambling.
So if you look at the numbers that way rod can sell all of his offspring at $50-75 (or lower for younger clowns) Lets just say he sells all 100 clowns at the $50 price. Thats $5k profit!
Lets say ORA has 100 clowns too, they can only sell 1 at picasso prices & the rest will be "regular" percs at around $25 retail. Thats $2.5K profit, half of rods.
So... whats my point? It will be a LONG time before enough picasso's are breeding true to catch up to the demand on these little fish, Rod has plenty of onyx popping out twice a month for everyone.
Plus on top of ALL of that, you've got the pattern issue with picasso's, certian ones are always going to draw more money due to the amazing pattern.
Ok... I'll stop rambling.
Slakker
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Yeah, but ORA is a much larger operation than Rod has...MUCH larger...so that pretty much makes your point ridiculous.
Prices are high for picassos because that's what people are willing to pay for them, not because they're inherently worth more. If people stopped paying the prices, they would drop.
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