How this Geezer did it in the beginning

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Hey Paul, I just finished reading this 36-page thread so I thought I'd check in and introduce myself. I'm 40 years old, and like you, I'm a DIY'er and a tinkerer. I wasn't raised this way, though. My dad didn't teach me much about doing anything handy around the house. Where I really learned stuff was when I was in the military. I spent 8 years in the Navy, serving with various Marine helicopter squadrons. I made some good friends that opened my eyes up to a whole world of being self-sufficient.

It started one day about 12 years ago when I needed a shelf to fit in a small space, and I guess I must have told my friend Brad that I was having a hard time finding the right size. He had me over to his house, brought out his miter saw, and very quickly made me exactly what I needed. I was in awe. He explained that with the right tools, you can accomplish anything. This concept was mind-blowing to me, and forever changed my life (Brad was killed not too long after in a helicopter mishap, but he left in me a legacy that he'll never know).

The idea of having the right tools for the right job stuck with me, and another friend of mine explained that if you have a big project for which you don't have the tools, just buy the tools because for the same amount of money you'd pay a contractor to do it, you'll get it done, you'll probably do it better, and at the end, you'll still have the tools for future projects.

I needed new floors in my house at the time. Another friend who had a contracting business on the side told me that I should do it myself. He said, "What's the worst that could happen? You screw it up? Well, you can never screw something up so bad that you or someone else can't fix it." The idea of not really being able to screw anything up really motivated me. So I bought some wood flooring, a miter saw, a table saw, and various other things, then set to work re-flooring my house. I made a few mistakes, but in the end, I was really proud of my accomplishment. I still have that miter saw and table saw, and have used them for countless other projects through the years. A little while ago I taught a friend of mine how to refloor his house, and I loved to see his amazement that he could do something that he thought you had to hire someone to do.

Same goes for my cars. When I got my first car, I taught myself how to change the oil for 2 reasons: to save money, and to make sure it was done right. When I was in the Navy, I learned about these things called Auto Hobby Shops on base where you could rent a bay with a hydraulic lift for $4 an hour. I would go there to change my oil all the time. One day, my 4x4 Pathfinder started making a squealing noise when the clutch was engaged. I learned that it was probably the release bearing, a $40 part that would cost $600 in labor to replace (you had to drop the whole transmission). Oh, and while the transmission was out, they might as well go and replace the clutch and flywheel, another $600. I thought screw that, I'll do it myself at the hobby shop. The factory manual said that a skilled mechanic could do it in 10 hours. I had 10 hours. I forgot the part about the "skilled mechanic." Well, it took me about a day and a half to drop the transmission, and another day and a half to put it all back together. But when it was done, not only did I save hundreds of dollars, but I also realized there was nothing on that car that I couldn't fix. I've done many other projects on my cars ever since, including replacing lower control arms, fuel filter, O2 sensors, timing sensors, A/C system line repairs, rear axles, and so on. My wife loves that I can work on cars, because she almost never has to go wait at the mechanic while her car is being worked on, nor fear that she's getting ripped off by someone. Oh yeah, and that Pathfinder never did need a new clutch and flywheel the whole rest of the time I owned it.

This post has gone on long enough without me mentioning an aquarium, so I guess I'll throw that in there. Like you, sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with an idea. Just a couple nights ago I had an idea on how to improve the plumbing in my system at about 3:00 in the morning. So I was in the garage cutting PVC, tinkering with my system at 3 am, and when I was done I went back to sleep for a couple hours before the kids woke up.

A few weeks ago the pump in our septic system failed and our tank got full. I had to call the guy to pump the tank out, and most people would have called the other guy to replace the pump. But the pump was simply a bigger version of pumps that we use in aquariums, plumbed to 2" PVC. I pulled out the old one, got the proper specs, and went and bought its replacement, then installed it. Saved a few hundred bucks and got it done quicker than the pro who wouldn't have been able to come for another couple days. I think most people nowadays wouldn't know where to begin doing something like that, nor have the willingness to even try. I know my neighbors don't.

I don't fix things because I need to save money anymore. I do it because I feel that self-sufficiency is an important trait to have. I know we're not like Little House On The Prairie, but I do think it's important to understand and be able to troubleshoot things that we interact with every day. It's amazing how many people who drive cars don't even know the basics of how a car operates. The same goes for a house, or a computer (I built this computer that I'm typing to you on).

Your granddaughter is a little sweetheart. I'm so glad to see you're enjoying her and helping to raise her right. I have 2 boys, ages 5 and 2. They're going to be tinkerers just like me. Whenever I'm under a car or working on some project, they always want to help out. I always let them, even though it slows me down. I don't care, it's just so important to let them get their hands dirty and figure out how things work by DOING things. Besides, they don't slow me down for long because after a few minutes they get bored and go back to running around, and whatever other mayhem they can create. Oh yeah, my kids play outside all the time. They love it outside. We're lucky to live in the country, in a safe area with no fences and little crime.

I wrote all this to tell you that there still is hope for the world. There are some of us in the next generation who value self-sufficiency, a good work ethic, and have curious minds that like to tinker and explore. My kids will be the same. Even now, if they break a toy they don't freak out. They just say, "Daddy will fix it." My older one has discovered scotch tape, so he tries to fix his own toys. I haven't even told him about superglue yet. Soon he'll be taking stuff apart to see how it works, which is fine with me.

And now back to aquariums. Here's a link I thought you'd enjoy. This is a guy who does 95% water changes with NSW. He gets his water directly from the reef, and the only thing he does to it is match the temperature with the tank. Oh, and adds some alkalinity at the end. His fish seem pretty happy.

http://youtu.be/Y5tVuqYFf48
 
Rumjahn, so there is hope. I know a lot of people but very few really handy ones. Most of my friends will work on their cars and fix many things around the house but none of the young people I know will. It boggles my mind that people will spend thousands for someone to build or fix a simple thing. People tell me, well I would rather pay someone to do something so I don't have to waste the time. But that is an excuse because if you pay someone $1,000.00 to do something and he does in in a few hours, you will have to work many hours to pay for that guy to do that. I would rather do it myself in a few hours and not have to work to pay anyone. I live in an expensive neighborhood and I have a nice boat. If I couldn't do things myself, I could not live here or own a boat. Most of the people living here are Dr.s and Lawyers, I am a retired electrician but I saved thousands by doing things myself, and I like to do things. I raised my dormer myself when I was about 30 years old, it took me 2 years because I was working. It cost me about $7,000.00 and I got a price from a few contractors for close to $40,000.00.
And I built it the way I wanted. I also built the 2 kitchens, and 3 baths, with all the asociated plumbing for water, heat and electricity.
I enjoy doing things like that as you seem to do.
I would also never let anyone touch my car or boat. I will rebuild the engine if need be as I have done quite a few times or change it.
Its the same with the reef tank. Anyone could buy a skimmer, LES lights or reactors, but for me (and you) that is no fun. It's just going to a store and buying the thing. I don't like going to stores and if I build it, it is built to my specifications, custom made for my tank.
I realize lots of people don't possess the skills to do things like that and that is a shame because it is not a learned skill, you have to be born with a certain amount of mechanical ability and some people can't even hold a hammar. But I let those people do my taxes and finance any money I have or I would go to jail. I guess we are all good at something. :wavehand:

This thing I made last week in about an hour. It removes air bubbles from my ATO system. I always had a problem with it as it would stop after a week or so because an air bubble would back up into the line. Now that problem is solved.

 
I see my air bubble problem is not solved as the water flow once again stopped yesterday. Air is getting into the tubeing but not through the float valve on the tank, and not from the other end that is constantly under water. I believe there is bacteria growing in the tube and that bacteria is making the bubbles. If that is the case, I am now going to install an acrylic riser on the highest part of the tubeing so any air bubbles will settle in there instead of the small diameter tube and it will not stop the flow of water. At least that is the plan. Occasionally I will suck out any air that forms in that chamber. It will be above the ceiling so it will be hard to see but if I occasionally suck out anything in that riser through a tube that will be near the tank, that should solve the problem. Of course if those tiny bubbles are forming all through the tube, I will have to figure out something else. I really don't want to put a pump on the system because gravity is constant and pumps fail.
But these things are the motivators that keeps my mind from getting rusty. If everything always worked correctly with no problems I would have been bored out of this hobby many years ago. :D
 
I went to visit relatives in India last year. The currency is the rupee, which is about $0.02. So my cousin was telling me about this fish store nearby, and he has a little 10g freshwater aquarium. He said he got his fish there for around 2 rupees each, from rainbow sharks to mollies. He also said he got this blue fish for the extravagant price of 20 rupees, but it started eating the other fish so he moved it to its own bowl.
We went to the fish store the next day, and I saw their saltwater selection. It was just blue damsels for 20 rupees each with a bunch of bleached coral skeletons! :lol:
 
We went to the fish store the next day, and I saw their saltwater selection. It was just blue damsels for 20 rupees each with a bunch of bleached coral skeletons!

Thats exactly how fish stores in Manhattan were in 1970.
 
Hey Paul,

Handy people are all too rare nowadays. When I tell people about my various projects, they are always amazed, and that should not be the case because once upon a time everyone was handy.

I have one friend that is as handy as I am, so I can call him for help with things that go better with two sets of hands, like replacing an exhaust on the car. He installed his own solar system in his house, and it's so good that he feeds electricity back into the grid and the power company owes him money! I'm going to do the same thing at some point.

If bubbles are forming throughout your ATO tubing, you might be able to install a device that vibrates it periodically to free the bubbles so they can rise to the high point, then at that position you can install a valve from where you can periodically burp it. Just a thought. I like thinking about these things too!
 
I have to say I had alot of fun reading this thread, thanks Paul. I have to agree that people are no way as handy as they used to be. I am by far not skilled in many things, but I try to fix and repair things myself since I was a kid. Now 29 years old and one of the things I tinkered with as a kid is now how I make money. I fix computers for staples, and looking to start my own business doing it. Sorry bout the tangent but a great read about the past thanks for all the insights Paul.
 
Dclownd, I am glad you liked it. I am not that computer savy but I can take them apart and get them working again. My Daughter's laptop croaked and I had to take every part out of it and repair the fan which is about as large as a nickel. I had to use my magnifying goggles, but I got it running again.
I just finished my Halloween decorations and like most things, I like to build most of them myself. I am not to big a fan of the tacky stuff Home Depot sells although I do have some of it to fill in. I just built this scarecrow, but I used my clothes and hard hat so the stupid thing looks exactly like me.



 
That's a great looking home Paul! Love the throwback to the electrician days.

I've always seemed to have a knack for the mechanical things. If I'm shown how to do something, I can likely do it again on my own. Its something that has come naturally for me I guess. I love tinkering and I can do most things myself to (and at 33 I'm sort of a 'youngin', although I don't feel it too much lately :lmao:). At 18 I pulled and re-installed my first motor in my parents garage and all I had to go on was help from other people on forums. I probably would have done it at a younger age, but everything I had I bought. My parents didn't have enough to spoil me with things (I think that's a good thing). I had the internet for that, but I can still remember what the world was like before the interwebs. I like tinkering on Honda's and purposely drive ones that don't have gofast parts I can buy off the shelf just so I can build them myself. I love the feeling you get when you build something yourself (especially when it works :rollface:).

My biggest hurdle for doing more things myself is my procrastination :deadhorse1:
 
Any geezers remember crushed clam shell for substrate?

You needed the putt-putt air pumps because they were the only ones that could push enough air to the bottom of the undergravel filter risers. And after you oiled them, a sheen showed on the water. Damsels and a tang, bleached coral skeletons from Pier One for decoration.

Then the first power heads came out. They sat on top of the u.g. risers out of the water and had cooling fans.

Then is was trickle filter and four-foot skimmers with limewood airstones, back to needing a powerful pump. Late 80's I think, that's when I started with coral. Still have the Caulastrea.

Forty years from now people will look back at what we are doing and what do you suppose they will think?
 
Kevin, I remember that well, I sometimes speak on the history of the hobby and have a thread about it someplace on here.

TheLub, it is nice to hear about some one who can do something besides Tweet, (which I can't do) There may be some hope for this country after all.
I had it easy because my dad Died when I was 10. Of course, that was not the easy part as I loved my Dad and always miss him, but it forced me to work. At 12 years old my neighbor who owned a car wrecking business gave me a job there. He taught me how to cut cars apart with an acetelyne torch and remove all the parts of a car. From there I became a mechanic in a gas station then at Oldsmobile I became a mechanic. So I had a mechanical background and now, I am confident that I can fix any part of any motor vehicle.
Now they are computerized which makes it much more difficult but after you figure out the bad part, it is easy to change it.
I was also a plumber then for the rest of my career, an electrician.
But I always enjoy fixing or building things and it is a breath of fresh air to hear about someone else who can do things with their hands. We have enough lawyers and soft ware engineers. I like building things so I can look back and actually see something and not just a pile of papers. My wife gets annoyed when we drive through Manhattan and I point out the buildings I helped build as she has heard it so many times.
I am looking at a job now that I gave to someone else as I don't do that any more. But the customer is a lawyer and is not handy at all. He has a bunch of silly little jobs in his home that are all five minute jobs but he can't do them. He also wants a generator that will run his entire home including his central AC. He doesn't want to, or know how to start the generator manually or put gas in it so it will be fully automatic and run on natural gas. So the price goes from a basic generator job of about $1,000.00 to $16,000.00. I don't know how people can afford to call someone to fix the simpliest things. There is so much money around if you know how to fix things. :smokin:
 
Lets get back to fish :jester:

Have you ever kept gorgonian corals before? I member on another forum I am a member of is looking for a "recipe" to keep them longer than a year. I figured if anybody knew, you'd be the one to know how to properly feed a picky eater :fun4:
 
I have lots of gorgonians, they grow like weeds. Some of these are old pictures but many are quite a few years old. They don't seem to die unless they fall over and get buried. I don't really do anything to them and that includes feeding. The colorful ones like bright red or yellow are not photosynthetic and are very difficult to keep a long time






 
I always love seeing pictures of your tank.

So these guys would be the harder variety to keep?
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Do you think your pod population has anything to do with their health? Or maybe the frozen clams? Or maybe the mighty RUGF? :lol:
 
I think that one you pictured would be hard to keep long term. One year is not long term. I don't know why they live in my tank except that I pick the ones that do better like the thicker, brown ones. I don't think it is the pods, but it may be the more natural conditions I keep in my tank than many tanks. It is not very sterile and I do add mud from the sea a couple of times a year, but I have no idea if that helps or hurts.
You can see some gorgonians on the left and right here. There are some in the middle but they are smaller and were from broken pieces of the larger ones.

 
I'm a big believer that your natural way is way better than the sterile way. Maybe you should get a blueberry and show all the folks who keep their tanks in hospital like condition what these hard ones can actually do :lmao:
 
Many people still feel that they have to sterilize everything they put in, vacuum up every bit of detritus and go to church if they see a tuft of algae. Those are the tanks that exist on the edge and crash as soon as the copperband sneezes on a majano or the arrow crab gets a leg cramp.
 
If bubbles are forming throughout your ATO tubing, you might be able to install a device that vibrates it periodically to free the bubbles so they can rise to the high point, then at that position you can install a valve from where you can periodically burp it. Just a thought. I like thinking about these things too!
That would be a nightmare to accomplish being that tube is about 30' long.
I can build a return tube from the float valve and once a week or so have a pump run on the tubing pushing any bubbles through. There are a few ways to do it but it usually works fine for a week or two, then I have to suck the air out so it is only while I am away that is a problem. Now I have installed some large hooks in the ceiling near the tank and I bought another float valve. If I go away for a while I can hang 2 five gallon buckets from the ceiling and gravity fed water to the spare float valve that will keep the tank filled in the event the main tube fills with air and stops. This is only for if I am away so I don't have to have these 40lb buckets of water hanging from my ceiling. :eek:
There are quite a few ways to remedy this problem and I will probably at one time or another try all of them. I enjoy these little "problems" as it keeps my brain from turning into pumpkin Jello. :lmao:
I would really like to design an automatic frozen food feeder because my fish don't do dry food. I can easily build it but it will not be cheap as it requires a small freezer. Any small freezer is not cheap and not small. But I am working on it. I tried to preserve live worms in salt to preserve them and feed that to the fish, but they just look at me funny and won't eat it. They are very spoiled. :debi:
 
Rumjahn, so there is hope. I know a lot of people but very few really handy ones. Most of my friends will work on their cars and fix many things around the house but none of the young people I know will. It boggles my mind thather do it myself in a few hours and not have tg things myself, and I like to do things. I raised
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Sweet! You did it! A functioning flux capacitor:)
 
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