How this Geezer did it in the beginning

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Fascinating, tagging along for the trip to a unknown yet desirable destination

Be careful, you may be disappointed, I tend to ramble and it is raining outside so I can't go to my boat.
I just stuck my hand in my tank to clean the glass and broke a big piece off an acropora. Now I have another frag and I hate those little frags all over the place.
I like it when they get big but I usually stick my big hand in there, the clownfish bites me and I jump. breaking something.
Oh well, another frag. :lmao:
 
Be careful, you may be disappointed, :lmao:

Highly doubtful, I'm stuck at a desk. Your rambling is a great distraction from the burning ball of chaos they pay me to manage, but I'm forewarned and prepared.:fun4:

I've also got a maroon clownfish who likes to treat me the same way. A big #$%^# of fish. Never fails to find my hand when I concentrating on something other than her.
 
I've also got a maroon clownfish who likes to treat me the same way. A big #$%^# of fish. Never fails to find my hand when I concentrating on something other than her.

I know the feeling, this little devil is a fireclown and not a maroon but he has been biting me at least twice a day for almost 18 years. You would think that in all that time he would realize I am feeding him. Pretty soon I am going to throw the phone in the tank and see if he can order "take out" for himself. That will teach him.
There is also his mate, little She devil with an even worse personality.
That white thing on the rock is an "interior" decorator crab.

Speaking of personality, the fish with the most personality are porcupine fish. They are so cool. And puffers, I also love those. One of my first salt water fish was a figure 8 puffer. (I actually got him in fresh water) One day I noticed a tumor that seemed to be inside his belly. Eventually the tumor grew so large he could no longer swim and just laid on the bottom. I removed him and swabbed his abdomin with Iodine and with an Exacto knife I opened him up and scraped out the tumor which was quite large and took up almost half his belly.
I put him back in the tank and he just laid there.
The next day I removed him from the water and being a puffer, he gulped air. As he did that I placed food, which was clams in his mouth. Back in the water he swallowed. I did that for a few days and after each feeding I had to, how can I say this? I had to relieve him of his gas. I just positioned him with his head down in the water and gently squeezed until the air came out. After a couple of weeks he was swimming and eating on his own and he lived another 12 years. (or maybe 8, I forget)I loved that fish and I think he was fond of me.:D

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I collected this burrfish in the Atlantic in NY. When he got to large I donated him to a public aquarium.
Tell me you ever saw a fish as cool.

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One day I noticed a tumor that seemed to be inside his belly... how can I say this? I had to relieve him... and he lived another 12 years. (or maybe 8, I forget)I loved that fish and I think he was fond of me.:D

It'd be a tall tale from most anyone else...

Speaking of favorite and long lived fish, what was the fish you grew the fondest of, and which ones lived the longest? Have you had any that you hoped would kick the bucket but seemed to hang on way too long?
 
"This is a hobby for God sakes and so many people get so uptite. A "hobby" so it should be fun and not a cause to worry or go broke.
The fish don't care one way or another but we should be having fun and not posting just problems." Paul B

Words to live by my friend. ;)
 
Speaking of favorite and long lived fish, what was the fish you grew the fondest of, and which ones lived the longest? Have you had any that you hoped would kick the bucket but seemed to hang on way too long?

My favorite was that figure 8 Puffer. I got him in fresh water. Then I put him in brackish, then salt. He lived to about 12 I think.

The longest fish I had was a brutlyd or cusk eel. It is a long skinny fish something like an eel but bright yellow. I had him for 18 years and lost him along with a bunch of other fish while I was away for a family disaster when my Mom died.
I never saw that fish unless I looked at the tank at night with a flashlight. He never came out and I never saw him eat. My fireclown is also about 18.
I had a couple of hippo tangs with such severe HLLE that I wished they would croak but they never do. I think that disease makes them live forever. I had two of them like that for over 10 years.
My first percula clown lived to 12 years old and I had a pair of hermit crabs for 13 years.
Many of my older fish get too large and I give them away usually to a public aquarium. I never sold a fish, rock or coral.
This was my first banded coral shrimp. I mated them and they lived and laid eggs for 7 years. I don't know when this was but looking at the picture it was before live rock and corals so it must have been late 70s or early 80s.
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These guys died last year at about 12 or 13

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As did these guys. They spawned for all those years

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Here she is with her eggs

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Fish generally live for many years and if you are finding dead fish, something is wrong. Almost all fish live at least 10 years, except seahorses, smaller clown gobies and pipefish.
I usually lost fish to an accident.
 
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It'd be a tall tale from most anyone else...
I was called a few times to wholesalers or LFSs to perform a little surgery. Once on a large green moray eel with a large tumor on his lip.
Nasty animals and extreamly slimy, almost impossable to hold without hurting. But I did it and he survived.
 
Wow! Thanks for the memories. I don't miss TVs without remotes but this thread really made me remember my first aquarium, a 10 gallon starter kit from Petland Discounts in Yonkers ny back in 1980. Great read Paul !!
 
Many of my older fish get too large and I give them away usually to a public aquarium. I never sold a fish, rock or coral....

How does that work? I've read of one other experienced member who gave or sold his livestock to a public aquarium. I can't image you just walk in with a fish in a bag?:lol2:

How many people with 5 years exp can say they have never sold anything alive, let alone the few with 20+?

I there a specific version or era of your tanks you enjoyed more than the others?

I usually lost fish to an accident.
The majority of us share your experience on this one. I'll add coral to the accidental fatality list as well.
 
I can't image you just walk in with a fish in a bag?

No, you have to call first and try to get someone on the phone that is not a cashier or a computer generated voice. Aquariums don't like to take livestock from aquarists. I had a hard time convincing the Riverhead Aquarium to take my burrfish. They think everything has ich.

Is there a specific version or era of your tanks you enjoyed more than the others?

I think I liked it just before corals started to be kept. Keeping fish was still new and I still only knew one person with a salt water fish tank. Learning by trial and error was fun and I learned a new thing every day. When I went to a LFS or wholesaler I always saw a new animal that I have never saw before and I wanted it. Then I could get all excited learning about it by reading all I could even though information was limited.
I still like inverts such as crustaceans better than fish, I find them facinating.
The hobby was a challenge then and there was so much to learn.
I also enjoy building equiopment, there were wet drys, skimmers, ozonators, surface skimmers, UG filters, algae filters etc.
Now it is mostly people telling you you can't do this or that. There is so much incorrect information out there that it is staggering and I personally am tired of trying to answer questions and then having the person telling me something like I never heard that, or I heard that is wrong, or I heard you can't do that.
We all have our own ways to do things and I didn't learn on the internet so my ways may be different.
We now have a lot of "experts" and some of them are very knowledgable and I admire some of them, but some of them are so adament that their way is the only way and it annoys me. Some people actually want to fight you over this stuff thats how sure they are that their way is the way to go.
It's a fish "hobby" why would you get mad over a hobby?
I run a reverse UG filter but I would never tell anyone else to do that. It's my thing and I am in the vast minority, I may be the only one running one but it works for me. You should see the mail I get saying that is a terrable system and it can't work :D
No one is shooting at us here, it's a Hobby and not very important except to us.:uhoh3:

The majority of us share your experience on this one. I'll add coral to the accidental fatality list as well.
Many of the accidents were from using Clorox. You have to be careful with that stuff and if you don't use Regular Clorox, the fish will die in seconds. I lost my entire fish population like that. Then once I had to leave on a family emergency and I was a away for a few days. This happened to occur when I had many of the fish in a smaller tank because I was re aquascaping and cleaning.
I thought I would be right back but I lost my 5 year old moorish Idol, an old mandarin and about 12 other fish.
I lost a puffer that got stuck in a pump where the screen came off, I actually lost a few fish like that, mostly puffers, they love intake tubes.
If you keep a tank long enough, you will have accidents.
Just a few weeks ago I was in Europe and my tank sitter let the water level drop 7". My 8" acropora was above the water as was many other corals. I still have frags from it but it was a nice size. The many gorgonians almost died from the increased salinity and still have some dead places on them, but most of the stuff came back.
Luckily, It is only a hobby
 
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Hello Paul, Thank you for your service.

I admire your 'Character' and that comes from a person that knows character...no really....I was PeterPan and Prince Charming and Many Many others for years. That picture to the left is me at 50 years old ( I am 51 now) well...That is why Disney made me Peter, at 21 yrs I looked like about 16

You defined what it was that you admired in a person and that did not surprise me : as others I feel like I can know you simply by your honesty and delivery. I grew up on a dirt road in southern Michigan and wanted to be a Marine biologist...yep ...that was gonna happen. Here is a link of a video I narrated this last December from old 8mm film taken in 1961 and on , while young men were sent to Vietnam us too young lived like this. My heroes are our service men and women. I begin the video as a baby. My Twin brother still lives in Michigan with my older Brother. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDfEWfL0_oM
 
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Paul, can you detail the windmill driven pump system you used to aerate your tank in the period before electricity was generally available? Or am I misremembering and it was actually steam driven?

In any case, I think a lot of folks might want to use one of those as electricity prices are pretty high now. :)
 
Paul,
You are a credit to the hobby and an asset to this forum. Thank you for sharing your life and experiences. We are all the richer for it. I have personally learned a lot from you. What is the picture used for your avatar? I've always wondered. Also, how/where does one acquire live black worms?
Eric
 
"This is a hobby for God sakes and so many people get so uptite. A "hobby" so it should be fun and not a cause to worry or go broke.
The fish don't care one way or another but we should be having fun and not posting just problems." Paul B

aint that the truth...well said my friend.

I always admire my good friend a neighbor "Bud". He is a former US marine (they don't like the word x marine so do not use it around them lol). His hobbies are fast cars and 4x4s. Hobbies that include a lot of work and a lot of money. He works hard, but plays harder. UPS/FedEx comes weekly bringing boxes for his toys, he works on them (which I help him with from time to time over a beer or 4 :D), then breaks the hell out of them. He works all day on his jeep for example, then breaks it out in the woods, it does not bother him. He had fun. He does not take his hobbies personally. Nor should we with these fish tanks...
 
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Paul, can you detail the windmill driven pump system you used to aerate your tank in the period before electricity was generally available? Or am I misremembering and it was actually steam driven?

In any case, I think a lot of folks might want to use one of those as electricity prices are pretty high now.

Now Randy, lets not get crazy. You are the best chemist that I know, no doubt about that but many of the things I have built that are not publicized may surprise you. :lmao:
Anyway, my "Steam" driven air pump is a SCUBA tank. No big Whoop there.
But as for electricity, I did install this on my roof and it gives me $110.00 in electricity every month.
Not too shabby. :dance:
And like LEDs, it was free. Well after a year or two it was free.
I also installed a condensing boiler for heat and hot water that saves me $4,000.00 a year. So I guess you could say that I do sometimes work in steam. And that was free. After a year.
For a couple of years I have been working on an engine that works on the sun's heat, (not light) that will be able to run an air pump, as well as everything else. :lol2:
But Randy, I do appreciate the contributions you have done for the hobby, even though you think I am nuts with most of my ideas, (yes, you know that I know you think that.:hmm2:

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Peter Pan, I am impressed, very nice and nice video. I am a big Disney fan, he was one of my heroes.
Disney bought out Sesame Street and I painted this in my Grand Childs room.
It is not finished in any of these pictures but you get the idea.
The last picture is the bassinet I was born in, but I don't remember much of those days:rolleyes:

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What is the picture used for your avatar?

Eric, First of all Thank you. I am not sure what I did to hear all these nice things but I would like to thank all of you, (even you Randy)
My avitar here
<------------ is a 1/2" local New York hermit crab that I took SCUBA diving in the Long Island Sound. The visability here is as you can see, about the length of a hermit crab.
Or sometimes 4". (It does actually get up to 5' but that is rare) I know most people do "Sissy" diving in the tropics where you can see everything, but that is, well, Sissy diving, although much nicer of course.

Here is one on a local "live" brick. Yes a brick. Bricks are actually great for live rock. They are inert clay and very porous. (OK Randy what is wrong with bricks?)
There are some other locally caught creatures that visited NY by traveling up on the Gulf Stream

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Also, how/where does one acquire live black worms?
You are in NY you should be able to get them in a pet shop, even Petco sometimes sells them. Just about all the LFS here sell them but I don't know where in NY you live.

Skidoctor, thank you, but I am no hero. (well maybe a under gravel hero) I know some and I served with some heroes and one of them even was awarded the Medal of Honor which he well deserved.
This is his story if anyone is interested. And this is where it took place on April1st 1970.
My hooch was on the bottom right of the picture but most of the action was on the upper left where Peter was at the time.
http://www.homeofheroes.com/profiles/profiles_lemon.html

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