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[newron6]

hi, my name is omer and i live in israel.
i think that the best way you can help me is give an article to read.
i want the best,precisely,most update article link from your experience that you can give me to read.

refugim - in a purpose to neutralize toxin
deeply understand this filter, how to build, size, and how to keep?

sump- the best way you think is good to build DIY sump , recommand picture&diagram

closed loop- how to build, how much flow , the safer way to build in tank.

i cant find by myself those demand in english article

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

here's a great site for building refugiums
http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

Sumps - http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html and http://melevsreef.com/rk101_sumps.html

Closed loop - http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

More refugium info - http://www.wetwebmedia.com/refugium.htm and http://www.aquaristsonline.com/blog/general/aquarium-filtration/the-aquarium-refugium/

Omer, I applaud you for taking the time to ask so many questions before diving into the marine world.

 

[newron6]

dont forget before you give ma an article to read my tank size

78" long
33" high
27" wide

 

[Gtstricky]

This book has some great info on fuges and sump: http://www.amazon.com/Reef-Inverteb...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239996286&sr=1-2

And this book is good also: http://www.amazon.com/New-Marine-Aq...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239996228&sr=1-1

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

that is a 300 gallon tank just make sure whatever sump refugium you choose make it appropriate to your tank.

 

[newron6]

i see melevsreef closed loop and i dont mean A Closed Loop System with an Undrilled Tank i build like that form my return pump
but i want to buy pump only for my closed loop , this is a good idea?

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

it's the same except you run the return through the glass rather than over the top of the tank

 

[newron6]

this closed loop will god for 280 gallon?

 

[newron6]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14846425#post14846425 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by newron6
this closed loop will good for 280 gallon?

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

It should be fine Omer.

 

[newron6]

i just can think what will be good for me

this look fine but is have small refugim and i can know if the sump is right for me

 

[newron6]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14846578#post14846578 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by newron6
i just can think what will be good for me



this look fine but is have small refugim and i can know if the sump is right for me

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

Are you wanting to have the sump and refugium as one unit or have you thought about using a separate tank for the refugium?

 

[Whys]

Here is an article that can help you choose the right pump.

http://www.aquariumpros.com/articles/headpress.shtml

Recommended rate for "turn-over" (water going thru the sump) is about 5x your display tank volume. Recommended rate for "total-flow" (all water movement in the display tank) is about 20x minimum.

Too much turn-over thru the sump will often result in micro-bubbles floating around in the tank. Not enough total-flow will lead to "dead spots" (very little water movement) and can hurt the health of your reef.

 

[newron6]

so you say that 5000 liter four hour pump is perfect for 1000 liter display tank?
i dont understand what is x20?
the in water from the tank to sump
or the opposite from the sump to the tank?

 

[Whys]

For your size of tank, you'll want a return-pump that will pump about 5000 liters per hour.

Tank => sump => tank.

For total flow in just the tank (not sump) you'll want at least 20000 liters per hour.

Tank => closed-loop => tank.

Your turn-over (return-pump) should be added to your total flow. So your closed-loop pump should pump at least 15000 liters per hour.

Some recommend an even higher total flow, like 30x or 40x, but not everyone believes that is necessary.

 

[newron6]

i to turn pages, but not deeply read it, its take time to me to read in english but i will do it finally , but still i have question,
i still dont know what the best way to build a closed loop system to my tank...
you say i need separated pumps 1. return pump 2. closed loop , in this article om marvrles reef i see i can use a closed loop from my return pump and dont need 2 pumps.
i dont know what my perfect sump design and size will be perfect for me
i cant build it from my own because its not very clear that i can read , see and build it diy myself
i want article on refugim and you give me a wwm and this very a lood meterial to read .

 

[Whys]

I don't know what design you are looking at. Can you give me a link?

Using only one pump for both your sump return and closed loop can usually cause problems. But I don't know what design you are looking at. Maybe it is better.