I got AEFW

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Infinitereef

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Ok, it my turn this time. Reading all the AEFW episodes recently, I began to closely observe my yellow Acros colony who has some RTN at the base for a while (~6mths). Sure enough, see a few brown string patch around the area where it RTN. I am assuming at this time, the brown patch is the eggs.

The yellow Acros is a 5x4 colony and is attached to a small LR. I will try to take some pics today, but from what I am been reading, I am pretty sure it is AEFW.

Ok, so here is my plan.

1. Ordered the Salifert FWE from Premium
2. When FWE arrived, transfer to the QT tank (20L)
3. Treat in QT tank for 2 weeks and with one dose per week

Questions:

1. I have a green slimer frag in my 180g tank as well but is in the opposite end. You think the green slimer is safe??
2. I do not have a spare lighting for the QT tank, will 2 weeks without light ok for the Acros??
3. Is FWE effective? From what I read seem to do the trick.
 
I don't believe that flat worm exit does anything to AEFW. It works on the regular flat worms that are redish in color. I believe there are some other treatments out there that are effective for AEFW. I would do some more research or see if someone else chimes in with experience treating AEFW.
 
I have read a couple claims regarding the FWE, but I went with the Levamisole treatments for 5 weeks in a 10 gallon QT tank with all Acro's from the display. Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure (TMPCC) is another product that has success, but it can be expensive if you have a lot of Acro's. Check out the SPS Forum as there are many threads on the treatments of AEFW's.

Sara
 
Re: I got AEFW

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7974676#post7974676 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Infinitereef
Ok, it my turn this time. Reading all the AEFW episodes recently, I began to closely observe my yellow Acros colony who has some RTN at the base for a while (~6mths). Sure enough, see a few brown string patch around the area where it RTN. I am assuming at this time, the brown patch is the eggs.

The yellow Acros is a 5x4 colony and is attached to a small LR. I will try to take some pics today, but from what I am been reading, I am pretty sure it is AEFW.

Ok, so here is my plan.

1. Ordered the Salifert FWE from Premium
2. When FWE arrived, transfer to the QT tank (20L)
3. Treat in QT tank for 2 weeks and with one dose per week

Questions:

1. I have a green slimer frag in my 180g tank as well but is in the opposite end. You think the green slimer is safe??
2. I do not have a spare lighting for the QT tank, will 2 weeks without light ok for the Acros??
3. Is FWE effective? From what I read seem to do the trick.
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I also have been fighting AEFW so I will give you some help from my experiance. FWE was allegedly effective for one or two people, but I really doubt it did anything. I have not noticed any AEFW dying from it. I need to experiment more.

The green slimer should be okay, as mine has no AEFW damage despite the fact that the coral right next to it is infected. The worst coral in my tank is the first one I received, so it may be just a question of time for my Green Slimer, which is one of my newest frags.

2 weeks is not enough time for QT IMO. Based on a 5 day egg to birth timeline and the time to sexual maturity for the AEFW, 5 weeks is a much better QT period. I have treated ever 5 days and have yet to see a single AEFW after the first round of treatment.

I do not believe that AEFW directly cause rapid tissue necrosis (RTN) as you state. RTN will kill a coral in hours, not months. I believe you are trying to say that AEFW cause damage that looks like RTN/STN starting for the base and going towards the tips and I would agree with that.

FWE will likely do nothing, but I guess it is worth a try as I used it also. :)

Based on all of this, I would recommend the following for your treatment regimen:
1. 5 to 6 weeks of QT, removing all acrs from main tank the whole time.
2. Remove ALL AEFW eggs with a toothbrush in a separate water container before each treatment.
3. Treatment with Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure on all QT corals every 5 to 7 days for a total of 5 treatments at a 2x normal dosage.
4. Watch all corals for stress and other infections during treatment.

Another treatment idea that works well IME but is painful to watch is to frag your 5x4 colony so that you remove all undamaged tips about 1/8" above the start of the AEFW damage and treat them. Then throw the entire remainder of the colony away, AEFW eggs and all. It really was difficult for me to do this to a $200 colony, but I have not had a singe AEFW show up following my first treatment.

HTH

Bryan
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7975108#post7975108 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sara B
I have read a couple claims regarding the FWE, but I went with the Levamisole treatments for 5 weeks in a 10 gallon QT tank with all Acro's from the display. Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure (TMPCC) is another product that has success, but it can be expensive if you have a lot of Acro's. Check out the SPS Forum as there are many threads on the treatments of AEFW's.

Sara
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Sara - Did the Levamisole cause any acro deaths from treatment? In some of the AEFW threads, reports of 30% mortality were given.

Infinitereef - I believe you can get the Levamisole from a local vet.
 
Bryan - I only lost about 4 frags out of 28 acro's treated. I did not have the deaths that others talk about. I also did one extra treatment by keeping them in QT for 5 weeks rather than the standard 4.

Levamisole is available at Farm & Fleet. It's a hog wormer so you need to shop back in the livestock section. It is a white plastic bottle with about 1/2" of yellow powder in the bottom of it. You fill it up to the top line with RO water and figure out your treatment amounts.

Sara
 
Thx Bryan. I meant STN not RTN. It does start from the base and slowly going up to the tips. throughout these months, the Acro grow too and thus it seem like it takes forever to STN.

I also read about the Betadine and seem like I can get it easily from Walgreens. Did you QT all your corals without light. My biggest problem right now is that I don't have a spare light for my QT tank.

How about this method

1. Take the Acro out and Betadine bath it for 25mins
2. Rinse it with tank water
3. Place it back to main tank.
4. Repeat every 4-5 days.


Does AEFW attack Milli and Monti??. I have 2 milli close to the infected colony?
 
I would highly recommend QT. The eggs of the AEFW may not be on the Acro colony ... they may be the live rock next to it. You will miss killing those and your dips will not be 100% successful ... hence having to do this all over again when they return.

Look for some used lighting to purchase and use over the QT tank.

Also, I have seen Betadine for the cheapest at Walmart ... about a $8 savings over Jewel Osco.
 
Sorry, I forgot something. Yes, Milli's are Acros as well and no, the AEFW's do not infect Montipora's.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7975508#post7975508 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Infinitereef
Thx Bryan. I meant STN not RTN. It does start from the base and slowly going up to the tips. throughout these months, the Acro grow too and thus it seem like it takes forever to STN.

I also read about the Betadine and seem like I can get it easily from Walgreens. Did you QT all your corals without light. My biggest problem right now is that I don't have a spare light for my QT tank.

How about this method

1. Take the Acro out and Betadine bath it for 25mins
2. Rinse it with tank water
3. Place it back to main tank.
4. Repeat every 4-5 days.


Does AEFW attack Milli and Monti??. I have 2 milli close to the infected colony?
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Millis.. yes, All Montis are safe no worries.
Set up a QT, 10 gal. or smaller, you dont need fancy lighting for this. Go to HD buy some security lighting ,flood lights.
Extra PH inside, keep your Ca. and Alk. stable, 2 parts come in handy.
Find some shalow container 2 gal. is good
8ml. BETADINE in 2 gal. salt water
Do this for 1week , 15 min dip. a day,scrape any eggs if U see one. Good luck
 
Pull out the Acro and dip in Betadine for 15mins per Menard instruction.

FW fanatically running out and 3 large one and many smaller ones. Every branch has eggs on it and it impossible for me to scrape everything out.

My other Milli is infected as well. No time to dip today, but will dip in the next day or so and place in QT.

My digital camera battery ran out and I can't take any pics.

Questions:
1. There is still many eggs left. I just place the colony in the QT tank. Is it ok?? Should I give up and throw away the colony??

2. Menards, 8ml for 2g of salt water right? Read that is 3ml per liter

3. Does Digi safe?
 
Put all the infected Acros. in QT.
Dip them in Betadine each day for 15 min. ( 8 mil / 2 gal. SW )
Acros. that heavyly infected frag'em in to pieces and save the once that U know have a chance of surviving.
All Montis. are safe w/ this nuesance , on the other hand there is the dreded monti. nudi U gotta wach out for. ( another deadly bastard )
 
I'm so sorry to hear you have these. They are a nightmare and wiped out a number of my prized possessions a while back.

I treated with Levamisole once I figured out what was going on and had mixed success. Many of my pieces were too far gone at that point. Good luck with them.
 
Here are some pics

Infected Acros. I am thinking of tossing it away. Too heavily infect with eggs on the base on almost every branch

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i always have a QT tank going mostly for fish. See my last minute Light setup using some 1x2 ...

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Betadine from Walmart

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7981490#post7981490 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Infinitereef
As of this morning, the betadine does not seem to have any effect on the Acros. PE is still there.
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Good! What about the AEFW do they fall off ?
 
Yes, I believe so. Saw 3 big ones and countless small one.

Digi are safe right?

Do you have pic of the Monti Nudi? what will be the symptoms if you have one?
 
Mike, thx.

I have dark spot growoing on the underside of the monti plate. However, the cap is growing and the topside facing the light has Polyps extension. Could this cause by the Nudis?
 
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