I need help...having diffeculties with my zoa's!

ok so i just got in from work...we are almost at 24 hrs after doing the dip and still not 1 of the zoa's have even opened a little, but the polyps aren't melting either so i guess that is sorta a positive!?!

...tonight after my lights go out, im thinking about placing my zoa's into my fuge were they are no fish...just to see if its my lemonpeel that is keeping them in...but i dont believe it is...

i dont know...
 
That might be your culprit...I know some angels do and will eat polyps. I had a coral beauty that was eating LPS....Lemon peels are supposedly one of the worst eaters and are considered absolutely non-reef safe.At least that what I have read and heard....:confused:
 
Not if it's just nipping the skirts off them....Remember they are poisonous but the skirts might not contain or may contain very little of the poison. They close up after being nipped and you wouldn't see it anyway. Remember you said you saw the skirts were missing. Right? That could be it, try the sum and see what happens.
 
try the sum? what do you mean? and yes i did see that the skirts were missing...

so do you think i should move them to my fuge? it doesn't run 24/7 but its an all 10 k bulb
 
Wow, a lemonpeel? I love them, but they are notorious pickers.
Put them in the sump and don't touch them for a while.
This might be case closed!
 
im going to place my zoa's in my sump for the time being and if that doesn't work then im taking them over to my buddies prop tank to see if they do anything over there...

can anything in my fuge bother the zoa's and is an all 10K bulb ok for them to be under?
 
my tank is a 26 gal with 2x65 watt light and my fuge is a 96 watt quad light... i think in my main tank its about 5 wpg while its somewhere around 9 wpg in my fuge
 
I don't care for the wpg method it is more important to know how close the lights are to the water and the corals....Like 4 inches from the water surface and 8 inches to the coral ect....Watts per gallon can give you a false security on how much light you have. The deeper the tank the less intense the light will be penetrating the water to the depths to where the coral is. I think you would be fine with that. If you want to put that unit on a timer and slowly increase the lighting till it is on to the same duration you have now.....Like start 6 hrs, then 8 hrs ect...over a few days to let the zoanthids acclimate to the lighting. You can just put them in there and let them acclimate on their own and see what happens.
 
thanks azurel, im actually going to take the zoa's over to a friends house and put them in his prop tank...hopefully they might turn around there....

well see!?!
 
That's cool sorry you have had so much crap with these....I have a small frag that I have had some issues with for some unknown reason....They just won't open up all the way, I have thought about dumping them in the trash to be honest.....Good luck bud.
 
ok guys so get this...i took my zoa's over to a friends out and we put it into his 40 gal prop tank...that was around 3...tonight he told me they are 75% open he guess'...

so now i need to figure out what is wrong with my tank...
 
I put money on your Lemon Peel....Did you ever get your water tested for silicates?.....At least you know they are not beyond the point of no return.
 
ok i was talking to some friends and this is what they suggested...either run carbon once a week in a month or stop using all together b/c chaeto has the same effect...also, i need to raise my alk (its at 7 dkh)...and finally they said that i should begin dosing iodine...

i acked whether or not a weekly water change would keep the iodine levels up and they said that it would but the carbon takes it out...

they told me that they dont think its silicates or the lemonpeel...

what do you guys think?
 
I know for fact silicates can do it although it might not be your problem unless you test for it.Some times it will lead to diatom outbreaks like I had sometimes it don't, at slightly lower levels....Lemon peels are notorious for nipping corals and clams. I run carbon almost all the time and I do dose iodine also. I have never had a problem with carbon and iodine, in all actuality the only way to keep things at natural sea water levels is 40-60% water changes every other day. Randy Homes-Farley wrote an article about it a few months back.
Yes, water changes return minerals and trace elements but it is no where near the amounts you need to need to keep a tank at sea levels. Your alk is at the low end of OK, most people and some experts like Eric Borneman suggest that you keep it between 7-12 dKH. The high end gives you a resistance to PH swings and gives a stability that the corals need. I would doubt that the alk would only effect the zoanthids while your other corals are fine. There is one way to find out how different your water is to your buddies, test both of then next to each other with the same test. If they test the same then it is nothing in your water or close to similar....If there are major differences then you know that it might be the water. But I still say your Lemon peel is the culprit most likely. Has any of your other corals shown any signs of stress?
 
none that i can see...my gsp is great, my xenia are growing new branches, and my very special mushrooms look good as well!

Wow Azurel you blow me away with the information! haha!

Well i guess having to take my carbon out is not needed...im in the process of raising my alk to around 11 and my cal around 420-440 or so...

i dont dose iodine in my system at this present time...maybe i should begin to...i have lugol's solution...how much would be needed to be dosed and at what type of schedual?

Maybe it truely was my lemonpeel, but im not sure...

I will ask my friend if we can test each others water together and see what we get, maybe that can further help me out, just in general! I will also have my silicated tested too!

As for right now the coral (zoa's) will stay in my friends prop tank and i will let them grow there until i find out and correct the problum with my tank...if it is my lemonpeel then i will frag them and introduce a new piece to my tank and see what happens!

I want to thank you and reef junkie for all of your help! Even though i respect other peoples advice, i feel that i iwill come to you 2 individuals for further advice when dealing with zoa's!

Thanks, and i will keep you informed of what is going on!
 
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