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saltydragon
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looking good mordibv...
anyone with the sedra 3500 pump running on the small can give some updates?...
im still waiting on my IT-100...i have been drinking my patience water...and im running low
anyone with the sedra 3500 pump running on the small can give some updates?...
im still waiting on my IT-100...i have been drinking my patience water...and im running low
tangtang clown
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14444212#post14444212 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boomer135
Well I went Ichy things the other day and just the housing of the 125 unit costs $280.00 and there is a 4-6 week waiting list ... saw this monster there.....And yes it's an I-tech
Where did you find such a small person????
thejuggernaut
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So what is the pump of choice for the medium and where can you get one. Also would the medium be the right size for a 120 gallon with a 40 gallon sump and a 20 gallon fuge? I have a light bioload now but hopefully that will change soon
jhammond
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Here's the details on the Med that John sent me:
Model 200 Cone Skimmer
Cone Base: 8"
Cone Neck: 3 ½"
Overall Height: 21 ¾" (needs an extra 3/8" clearance for cup removal)
Footprint without pump: 11 ¼" x 8 ½"
Recommended Pump: Sicce PSK-2500
Inlet: female ¾" PVC pipe threaded
Recommended water level: 6" to 7" (a stable water level will increase performance and decrease adjustments)
Recommended pump
CoralVue Sicce PSK-2500
· Needle-wheel impeller
· Skimmer and pump footprint: 14" x 12"
· Airdraw: At startup ~600 lph @ 19w in 6 ¼" depth of water.
This combination works very well in my opinion. A muffler is included to help elimination suction noise produced by the pump.
I'm in the same boat, not sure if this is the proper size for my 135.
Model 200 Cone Skimmer
Cone Base: 8"
Cone Neck: 3 ½"
Overall Height: 21 ¾" (needs an extra 3/8" clearance for cup removal)
Footprint without pump: 11 ¼" x 8 ½"
Recommended Pump: Sicce PSK-2500
Inlet: female ¾" PVC pipe threaded
Recommended water level: 6" to 7" (a stable water level will increase performance and decrease adjustments)
Recommended pump
CoralVue Sicce PSK-2500
· Needle-wheel impeller
· Skimmer and pump footprint: 14" x 12"
· Airdraw: At startup ~600 lph @ 19w in 6 ¼" depth of water.
This combination works very well in my opinion. A muffler is included to help elimination suction noise produced by the pump.
I'm in the same boat, not sure if this is the proper size for my 135.
thejuggernaut
Member
Not sure its the proper size in what respect? That the skimmer is too large or too small for your application. Yea I want to get an appropriate size skimmer...i def dont want one that is too small and on the other hand i dont really see the need to buy one that will handle a 300 gallon tank either.
Emster
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14451613#post14451613 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thejuggernaut
So what is the pump of choice for the medium and where can you get one. Also would the medium be the right size for a 120 gallon with a 40 gallon sump and a 20 gallon fuge? I have a light bioload now but hopefully that will change soon
I have the small on my 90gal tank, 40gal fuge/frag with a 20gal sump and I would say my small is getting close to being maxed out but could go more IMO, but I have a very high bioload lots of corals and my fish are getting big. I would go with the medium if I was you that way if you ever go to a bigger tank you will be set and it never hurts to have a large skimmer on a system as long as its not way overkill.
thejuggernaut
Member
I saw your tank in last months edition...it is gorgeous to say the least. I think the medium would be the way to go for me...as far as the Sicce pump goes, I have found many of them on different sites and they all seem to come with both a mesh and needle wheel. Are they all the same product on the different sites or are they quality differences in the kits. Lastly what would work better the needle or pin wheel?
Thanks for everyones help..there are so many choices, and it seems the more you learn the less you know..haha...i guess thats the same with anything
flat broke
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No good one stop shopping on the needlewheeled version of the Sicce at the moment. I had an octopus extreme 160 with the 2500, and the MSX pinwheel defiinitely pulled more air than the Coralvue unit. But the Coralvue restrictor/venturi is nicer than the MSX one. I had heard rumors about Reef Specialty (Coralvue distributor) working on an improved pinwheel. If that comes to fruition, it'd probably be a slightly better package (once the new pinwheel is proven to outperform the standard Coralvue pinwheel).
As I understand it, Tunze is also working with John on the 9420 skimmer pump. It costs more than the Sicce, but I Tunze customer service is top notch. You might want to dig back through this thread, or better yet, email John about the latest updates on the 9420 working with the Medium/200 body.
Chris
thejuggernaut
Member
Yea these skimmers are so reasonably priced I wouldnt mind spending a little more on the tunze pump...I guess ill need to get ahold of John on monday...dang thats like a day and a half away...i need instant gradification...i know i know...a bad quality to have in this hobby...haha...thanks for the info!!!
I guess there's no updates as of yet on the tunze pump shown below being tested with the small cone.
http://www.tunze.com/details.html?&L=1&C=US&type=&user_tunzeprod_pi1[prodid]=9410.040
In the event the above pump doesn't pan out to work with the small cone, anyone know where the cheapest place to order the aquabee/needlewheel/ with venturi on-line.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.tunze.com/details.html?&L=1&C=US&type=&user_tunzeprod_pi1[prodid]=9410.040
In the event the above pump doesn't pan out to work with the small cone, anyone know where the cheapest place to order the aquabee/needlewheel/ with venturi on-line.
Thanks in advance.
After reading this thread, and reading that John is trying to pair the new Tunze Hydrofoamer pump with his cone skimmer, got me very interested in it. I talked to John yesterday, and he said that he is still working with Roger on pairing the pump with the skimmer. He is trying the 9410 with the model 100 and 9420 with the model 200.
I'm planning on upgrading to a 120g with 40g sump as well. I think the model 200 is the way to go for that size. Luckily, I've got plenty of time before the upgrade so I can wait and see how the Tunze pans out. I'm a big fan of Tunze and the support they receive from Roger so a cone skimmer powered by Tunze seems like a great match. I hope they can get it worked out.
Otherwise, I've been considering the new WM K-2 cone and ATB Econo 840 - both Sicce powered.
I'm planning on upgrading to a 120g with 40g sump as well. I think the model 200 is the way to go for that size. Luckily, I've got plenty of time before the upgrade so I can wait and see how the Tunze pans out. I'm a big fan of Tunze and the support they receive from Roger so a cone skimmer powered by Tunze seems like a great match. I hope they can get it worked out.
Otherwise, I've been considering the new WM K-2 cone and ATB Econo 840 - both Sicce powered.
Wayner2,
I looked online quite a bit and the only place I could find the Aquabee pumps was Petorama.
http://stores.petorama.net/Detail.bok?no=51
Although I agree Tunze probably make a great pump, I would not shy away from the skimmer if the Tunze pump does not work with the small & medium skimmers. The Aquabee on my small cone works great.
I looked online quite a bit and the only place I could find the Aquabee pumps was Petorama.
http://stores.petorama.net/Detail.bok?no=51
Although I agree Tunze probably make a great pump, I would not shy away from the skimmer if the Tunze pump does not work with the small & medium skimmers. The Aquabee on my small cone works great.
flat broke
New member
Does anyone know how many gph the aquabee is rated for with a standard impeller as opposed to the pinwheel? The reason I ask is that I may try one semi-diy option in place of the auqabee whiel I wait for the Tunze results. But I dont' want to buy a pump that would be grossly mismatched in terms of flow rate to begin with.
Chris
Chris
tangtang clown
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What are the differences between the sicce and the tunze pumps? Air draw, watts, etc...
reefrubble
Premium Member
Mike , I'll take mine with a little milk , and sugar . Ted
flat broke
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DIY alternative pump updates. First and foremost, using an MSX pinwheel on a Quiet One 2200 doesn't work. To start you have to make modifications to the pinwheel where it slides over the magnet/driver to shorten the overall length. After doing this you need to make some bushings from nylon spacer stock. No big deal, and can be handled with simple handtools. Unfortunately the setup pushes too much water pressure even when restricted down to a .5" inlet. At that diameter the pump is too noisy for use (at least in my aquarium) so I didn't pursue the issue further. So scratch that idea for alternative pumps
I'd guess this also tosses out the thought of massively restricting a Sicce PSK 2500 with pinwheel. Because the Sicce is very similar to the QO 2200/3000, odds are the pump would just move too much water for the body of the 100.
I got my modded Eheim 1250 with ATB pinwheel to run restricted enough not overflow the skimmer, but the airflow fell of in proportion to the water throughput requiring me to run the wedge pipe between the last and second t last dot. After three days, the neck was dirty, but no skimmate managed to spill over. Basically at that flowrate, there was insufficient air to create enough bubbles to move far enough up the neck. Even the smallest adjustment to close the pipe a little more caused an overflow.
So that brings me back to the aquabee vs waiting for the Tunze. At this point I've been skimmerless for a little while, and I'd like to get going. I have a lfs that can get me the aquabee (waiting on a price and eta). Has anyone heard anything further about the 9410? I have no problem buying the aquabee based upon the results I've seen. The main reason I'd consider holding out a touch longer for the Tunze is simply the fact that the pumps are supposed to be dead silent, and are backed with the same great customer service as the rest of the Tunze line.
Chris
I'd guess this also tosses out the thought of massively restricting a Sicce PSK 2500 with pinwheel. Because the Sicce is very similar to the QO 2200/3000, odds are the pump would just move too much water for the body of the 100.
I got my modded Eheim 1250 with ATB pinwheel to run restricted enough not overflow the skimmer, but the airflow fell of in proportion to the water throughput requiring me to run the wedge pipe between the last and second t last dot. After three days, the neck was dirty, but no skimmate managed to spill over. Basically at that flowrate, there was insufficient air to create enough bubbles to move far enough up the neck. Even the smallest adjustment to close the pipe a little more caused an overflow.
So that brings me back to the aquabee vs waiting for the Tunze. At this point I've been skimmerless for a little while, and I'd like to get going. I have a lfs that can get me the aquabee (waiting on a price and eta). Has anyone heard anything further about the 9410? I have no problem buying the aquabee based upon the results I've seen. The main reason I'd consider holding out a touch longer for the Tunze is simply the fact that the pumps are supposed to be dead silent, and are backed with the same great customer service as the rest of the Tunze line.
Chris
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