i think i just saved my $4 grand tank and $800 worth of livestock?

[andrewsky]

i think i just saved my tank. my anemone ended up dying ithink. it was on its mouth side and the tentacles were shot and shriveled. it just happened today and did some research to make sure it was dead. but the only way i can take it out was to stab it (through the mouth so i guess i didnt get to the guts)so i did. so i def know its dead now. but would the left over flesh or stabbing cause any chemicals that the anemone releases to mess up my tank because when i took the anemone it liked a little dusty in the cave that he was in but i dont know if thats just from the sand and dibre on the rock. will there be in any chemicals?

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

Why did you stab it? Why not just pick it up?

 

[garygb]

Your other inhabitants will likely be fine. Just to be on the safe side you could run fresh carbon and skim a little on the wet side.

 

[andrewsky]

ok good. i will run some carbon. and i was not able to pick it up because im barely able to reach but i would have to move a bunch of rocks out of the way and i dont want to disturb my fish and corals that i have so since in was mostly dead i figured instead of trying to move all the rocks and spend a while putting them back together or trying to woosh it out of the cave i just stabbed it. thanks so much for telling me my inhabitants will be fine i was getting so worried.

 

[SwampyBill]

You already had an anemone & $800.00 worth of livestock in a month old tank...?

 

[andrewsky]

ya i live in a rich area so ofcourse prices of fish are gonna be up there. but if anything its $500 but ya. ya i did because the fish guy i work with said it was fine to get an anemone and my 13 fish are doing fine their happier in my tank then they were at the store. and my corals are out alot. but the anemone was hiding in between two other anemones and wasnt really showing that much so i shouldnt have gotten him so i think he was just sick from the start at the store.

 

[SwampyBill]

My point is that your tank is probably still cycling & way too soon to put 3 anemones plus all those fish & corals in it. What size tank, what are your water parameters & what lights do you have? IMO, sounds like you need to slow down a bit & read more on here, while not listening to LFS guy so much...

 

[garygb]

I just re-read the original post and I don't see where you say your tank is one month old, but assuming that's the case, you are definitely rushing things. An anemone shouldn't be in a newly established tank period. The general recommendation is that a tank be up and running at least 6 months before adding an anemone, and I would say a year for the more demanding species. Before purchasing anything, research the species and the care they require. Lfs staff are often ignorant of the requirements of a given animal and are in the business to make money, so though there are exceptions, many will just tell you whatever makes them the most $.

 

[SwampyBill]

I read OPs signature info & other posts to find out how old tank was...

 

[andrewsky]

no my tank is about 2 and half months old now. i only had one anemone not three. and the lfs guy im pretty sure he knows what hes talking about because he setup my tank very well, he has seven tanks of his own all saltwater besides one or two. his tanks are all doing fine too, he also has his own company of setting up tanks and has like 10-15 other clients. im pretty sure im fine with him.

 

[andrewsky]

i have good parameters but my ph is a little low so im trying to fix it, its at 8.1-8.3. i have a sump with a protein skimmer, pump, uv sterilizer, powerhead, two overflows, the size tank is 118 gallons, ro/di water, reef crystals salt, and t5 blue actinics with 10,000k MH and 4 moonlight leds, 100lbs of live rocks and live sand, b-ionic, and kent marine essential elements. i just brought kent marine extrem garlic and kent marine marine c for some of their vitamins .

 

[Toddrtrex]

no my tank is about 2 and half months old now. i only had one anemone not three. and the lfs guy im pretty sure he knows what hes talking about because he setup my tank very well, he has seven tanks of his own all saltwater besides one or two. his tanks are all doing fine too, he also has his own company of setting up tanks and has like 10-15 other clients. im pretty sure im fine with him.

Sorry, but that LFS "guy" is wrong, and doesn't know what he is doing. There is no way you should have put an anemone in your tank this soon.
I would suggest not purchasing another anemone for at least 4 more months, and not before you buy your own test kits.

What size tank do you have?
What lights do you have?
What all do you have in the tank, please list those 13 fish.

 

[Angel*Fish]

I highly recommend reading this article. You have to scroll down to Myth 15 http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-01/eb/index.php
It will help you have some understanding of what's going on in your tank. Fwiw, the only anemone I've ever had die in my tank was the one I bought on the advice of the LFS when my tank was about 3 months old. They are really very hardy, but they do have certain requirements.

It seems to me there are two answers:
1) your fish guy sold you a sick anemone
2) your fish guy sold you an anemone before your tank is ready for one.
The math isn't hard from here.

 

[SwampyBill]

+1 on what garygb, angel*fish & toddrtrex said. Is this the same tank that you set up in early Nov.? Whatever happened to the hippo tang with lateral line erosion from a previous post? Now you've lost an anemone, too. Did you do a water change & run new carbon after stabbing the anemone to pull it out? I hate to be 'that guy', but you really need to slow down; read, read & then read some more here on R.C. Your fellow reefers here have decades of knowledge & no ulterior motives (i.e. making money for their store) but do have the best interests of tank inhabitants in mind & will try to steer you in the right direction.
I completely understand about the excitement of a new tank & wanting it stocked like, yesterday...Gawd knows I've had my own setbacks in this hobby over the years. But patience is the key here & if you want long-term success in this awesome hobby, I hope you learn some soon; otherwise the rest of your $800.00 of livestock won't be alive much longer when that new 4K tank crashes. IMO, whoever told you it was ok to put 13 fish, corals & an anemone in a tank barely a month old doesn't know jack....& needs to put the pipe down....

 

[tanan]

Ditto to all of the above.
These guys have experience plus they are not here to sell you anything.
So, if I had to pick between them and your LFS guy.I would pick guys who have reputation to withhold and are not here to sell you anything.
If you read the forum,you ll notice one thing throughout "only bad things happen fast in a reef tank".
P.S.Its your money,not ours.But What we care about is your livestock.

 

[BonsaiNut]

I was going to post something here last night but was afraid I would come off as too critical.

Bottom line, if your LFS guy knew what he was doing, you wouldn't be pulling dead animals out of your aquarium.

The really important things that happen in your tank happen at a microscopic level. Test kits will only give you a very general indicator of when things are going poorly. It is almost impossible to test for when things are going perfectly. The only way you know is through the health and well-being of the animals in your tank. Things dying = bad conditions, regardless of what any test kit or LFS guy tells you.

Stabilize your tank with just rock in it until you SEE that things are going well - until you SEE zooplankton on the glass and coralline algae growing robustly and the water CRYSTAL clear with no bad algae growth. Listen to your critters - they know much more than any test kit.

 

[wireefman]

ya i live in a rich area so ofcourse prices of fish are gonna be up there. but if anything its $500 but ya. ya i did because the fish guy i work with said it was fine to get an anemone and my 13 fish are doing fine their happier in my tank then they were at the store. and my corals are out alot. but the anemone was hiding in between two other anemones and wasnt really showing that much so i shouldnt have gotten him so i think he was just sick from the start at the store.

see your qouted post below

I read OPs signature info & other posts to find out how old tank was...

funny how that dissapeared

no my tank is about 2 and half months old now. i only had one anemone not three. and the lfs guy im pretty sure he knows what hes talking about because he setup my tank very well, he has seven tanks of his own all saltwater besides one or two. his tanks are all doing fine too, he also has his own company of setting up tanks and has like 10-15 other clients. im pretty sure im fine with him.

so which one is it.... 3 nems like your post, or 1 nem to your contraditory post...


just alittle advice, be honest here.... if you rushed.... u rushed... its a very common and easy thing to do.... with that said, SLOW down.... your wallet will thank you as will your livestock..

 

[Angel*Fish]

I think he was saying there were 3 anemones at the store.

 

[wizardx322]

I don't see anything wrong with adding everything he has with a new tank( if its big enough) unless this is his first tank then prob not a good idea as he does not have the expierence. When i set up my 90g i took everything i had from my old tank and put it in my new 90g after 1 week of being set up (100lbs live rock, fish,coral,and 3 of my rbta's) everything was doing great and still are doing great. my friend with a 280g did the same and put all his stuff in from his 200g after 3 days (he has some expensive stuff). From MY experience adding something at 1 week to adding something at 1yr I had the same results. I do agree with listening to people on here over the lfs store though as they are only trying to help. ( a good store would not of sold you a bad anemone).

 

[2Addicted]

When i set up my 90g i took everything i had from my old and put it in my 90g after 1 week everything (100lbs live rock, fish,coral,and 3 of my rbta's) was doing great and still are doing great. .

Thats different than cycling a new tank.