I want the sand secrets...

Spicer

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I want to know ALL your sand secrets!

I want one of those gorgeous looking sand beds, that I see often in pictures.

How is it done? It looks sugar sized, but not blowing around, and its crisp clean!
 
I would have to assume its magic, because i have never managed it. Not that i have really tried after my incident with sand... I changed to more of a gravel, which is definitely not sparkly either, but is much safer.

But i'll follow along because i would too like to have shiny sand one day again.
 
Mine is sugar-sized, nice and white, and I have two Tunze 6105's in my 90 gallon. Once the sand becomes established, over time, bacteria helps to hold it together a little bit. I don't run a DSB, but rather a shallow 1" - 1-1/2" deep sand bed and it has to be stirred and raked on a somewhat regular basis. I also keep some nassarious (sp?) snails in there to stir it up and I adjust my powerheads so they provide great flow for my SPS corals without causing a sandstorm.
 
Mine is sugar-sized, nice and white, and I have two Tunze 6105's in my 90 gallon. Once the sand becomes established, over time, bacteria helps to hold it together a little bit. I don't run a DSB, but rather a shallow 1" - 1-1/2" deep sand bed and it has to be stirred and raked on a somewhat regular basis. I also keep some nassarious (sp?) snails in there to stir it up and I adjust my powerheads so they provide great flow for my SPS corals without causing a sandstorm.

Hmm.

I was hoping to do a 1inch also... Just enough for my wrasses to sleep in.

Yea, Ive heard Nass are the best, but I was hoping that wasnt the answer. :(

Do biopellets keep sand crisp white?
Maybe a phosban reactor?

How bout a pistol and goby pair?
Maybe a yellow headed sleeper goby?

Sucks that it needs to be pushed around! :(

I have an mp10, and a med koralia in a 40breeder.
 
I have a pair of diamond gobies in a 125g that keep a 1-2" layer of CaribSea Special Grade sand pearly white and for the most part detritus free. However, about once a month I have to push the sand away from the glass and scrape it, as I eventually get algae growth between the sand and the glass.
 
I have a pair of diamond gobies in a 125g that keep a 1-2" layer of CaribSea Special Grade sand pearly white and for the most part detritus free. However, about once a month I have to push the sand away from the glass and scrape it, as I eventually get algae growth between the sand and the glass.

Ok so you recommend gobies, cool.

Got any nass in the tank also?

Also, would a phosban reactor or biopellets make a difference?
 
Ok so you recommend gobies, cool.

Got any nass in the tank also?

Also, would a phosban reactor or biopellets make a difference?

Those things will help prevent algae, but the only thing that is going to get the detritus out of the sand bed is you.

Sorry bud, but keeping a good looking reef tank involves work.
 
I take a multifaceted approach consisting of fighting conch's, a sand sifting star, nass snails, engineer goby, a tiger tail cucumber, and manual siphoning of the sand bed with each water change.
 
I take a multifaceted approach consisting of fighting conch's, a sand sifting star, nass snails, engineer goby, a tiger tail cucumber, and manual siphoning of the sand bed with each water change.

I have had 2 engineer gobies over the years . . . which is why I now endorse retroactive abortion. I would avoid these like the black plaque (super aggresive sand movers, and nitrate producers, and rock movers, etc). Conches, stars and definitely nassarius snails are all great, however.
 
You can use a turkey baster to blow gunk off the top of the sand and back into the water column.
 
I don't experience on saltwater yet, cause my tank is in the setup process, but in my fresh water tank, i clean the sand under running water until only sand was left in the bucket, and no dust, that way you have heavy sand that goes to the bottom fast and when you vacuum you'll only take a few pieces of sand.

You can't do this is you want to put in live sand.
 
two words, kent scrubber ! lol

weekly, I move and disturb my shallow sand bed with one .. before I do water change ! keeps it crystal clear.

also, cant forget the importance of HIGH flow ! will take time, but you want as much flow as nothing would settle, yet sand wont rise into water column.

as mentioned earlier, it takes some work.
 
Hey Steve..I have 2 engineer gobies that I have had for over 5 years and they move alot of sand..But then again one is about 16" long and the other almost that! They managed to find a hole in my plexiglass false-bottom to get under and i found a pile of sand one morning when i woke up. they are slowly making there way under the entire plexiglass, so my idea of a plenum went out the window..but i've had them so olong and they are so unusually large i can't get rid of em
 
NO NO NO NO one answer

NO NO NO NO one answer

I don't here enough people say this but one answer. FLORIDA FIGHTING CONCHS. They are awesome I have three in my 210 they stir stir and stir some more don't bother anything and are just cool to look at. When I went to get them in the store the lady was like sir there illigal to have. Of course this made me laugh because I live on the gulf coast of florida and can tell you there not illigal to have. These don't get huge like the horse conchs do. Look it up and best of all they aren't that exspensive.
 
I have about 8 or 9 in my 125 and i got them at the beach, just in the sand..free... I've seen the same snails at the LFS for $2.99 or more. I live near tampa myself, just got a bunch of hermits and about 20 mangrove pods at the beach friday. The hermits are white and eat algae like theres no tomorrow.
 
starfish, snails and gravel vac (provided your sand is heavier grade like 3 and up) when you do a water change. Those will all help to keep your sand clean looking.
 
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