"ICH FREE TANK" Quest Begins
- Thread starter Triggerfish
- Start date
- Status
Triggerfish
Active member
Re: No Sick Fish Product
Re: No Sick Fish Product
lol..after only 2 days with kick ich my fish had a huge improvement.. you should have seen them after day 5.
btw: What's in it??? has anyone ever figured it out yet.....
Re: No Sick Fish Product
jeff72081 said:
lol..after only 2 days with kick ich my fish had a huge improvement.. you should have seen them after day 5.
btw: What's in it??? has anyone ever figured it out yet.....
jeffbrig
Premium Member
Re: NO SICK FISH fish treatment
Re: NO SICK FISH fish treatment
Gee, what an amazing coincidence. Two people with such similar backgrounds and almost identical experiences joined on the exact same day to post identical stories within minutes of each other.
What a bunch of morons! They don't even realize they're spamming the same thread....and on a REEF forum no less.
I'm posting a link in the feedback forum to see if we can get these people (and their IPs) blocked.
Re: NO SICK FISH fish treatment
bronzeback42 said:
jeff72081 said:
Gee, what an amazing coincidence. Two people with such similar backgrounds and almost identical experiences joined on the exact same day to post identical stories within minutes of each other.
What a bunch of morons! They don't even realize they're spamming the same thread....and on a REEF forum no less.
I'm posting a link in the feedback forum to see if we can get these people (and their IPs) blocked.
guyguerra
Premium Member
I apologize if I'm wrong, but is bronzeback42, ryan utterback and farmboy all the same guy? You won't find farmboy since he was booted, but these all look the same.
DMCQ, I tried raising temps and vacuuming daily while using hypo. It was a lot of work, and didn't work for me. I would agree with jeffBrig that a bear bottom tank would be essential to a daily vacuuming program, which doesn't sound possible with your display tank.
I never thought I'd say this but I wonder if kick ich and just supporting the fish to be healthy might be your best bet.
DMCQ, I tried raising temps and vacuuming daily while using hypo. It was a lot of work, and didn't work for me. I would agree with jeffBrig that a bear bottom tank would be essential to a daily vacuuming program, which doesn't sound possible with your display tank.
I never thought I'd say this but I wonder if kick ich and just supporting the fish to be healthy might be your best bet.
jimmyj7090
aka John K
this is truely funny.
A. #### #### doesn't even realize they are spamming the same thread.
B. #### #### who is obviously selling or trying to help selling a certain product doesn't even know enough about the relevant subject to know that the FW and SW parisites are completely different organisims.
C. Did I say this is funny?
D. way to undermine the potential success of your money making snake oil?
A. #### #### doesn't even realize they are spamming the same thread.
B. #### #### who is obviously selling or trying to help selling a certain product doesn't even know enough about the relevant subject to know that the FW and SW parisites are completely different organisims.
C. Did I say this is funny?
D. way to undermine the potential success of your money making snake oil?
jimmyj7090
aka John K
Oh yea,
just to update if anyone is paying attention to my story,
after Hypo treatment, my fish are back to 1.024 today and all look great. My purple tang has a slight discoloration on his pectoral fins, one whitish area on each fin, both in the same place. The symetry of the discolorations makes me think this is normal and I'm just paranoid right now, but the appearance of the discolorations makes me concerned that I'm seeing spots again.
I'm thinking I'll give the fish 14 days at NSW, SG levels in the hospital. Does this sound adequate in others opinions (assuming that my concern on the P. Tang is unfounded)?
jk
just to update if anyone is paying attention to my story,
after Hypo treatment, my fish are back to 1.024 today and all look great. My purple tang has a slight discoloration on his pectoral fins, one whitish area on each fin, both in the same place. The symetry of the discolorations makes me think this is normal and I'm just paranoid right now, but the appearance of the discolorations makes me concerned that I'm seeing spots again.
I'm thinking I'll give the fish 14 days at NSW, SG levels in the hospital. Does this sound adequate in others opinions (assuming that my concern on the P. Tang is unfounded)?
jk
guitarfish
Premium Member
JK, how long did you have the fish in hyposalinity?
jimmyj7090
aka John K
about 7 weeks
guitarfish
Premium Member
As you porobably know, the minimum time for hypo is 21 days after all spots are gone. I've done hypo successfully in about 28 days in the past. 7 weeks is quite a time, I can't imagine there's any parasites alive in that tank, assuming you kept it at 1.009.
Triggerfish
Active member
i believe the recommendation was to leave them in hypo for 6 weeks after the last spot has been noticed. if that's the procedure you followed, then not sure what else you could do.
good luck
good luck
jimmyj7090
aka John K
I agree, but after all this trouble why rush anything.
Plan was 6 weeks hypo after seeing no spots as that's the max time I've seen reccoended. Fish only showed spots for a few days in the display and I began catching them ASAP (infection started with a new fish). No spots seen in the QT even in the time before I began dropping the SG. 6 weeks stretched to 7 just because I was busy and distracted so I waited several extra days before I started bringing the SG back up.
I, like you, am on a mission to beat this bug. I just want to eliminate all the loose ends that I can.
So far so good, but I'd rather have the parasite re occur in the QT than when the fish go back into the display. I figure an extra 2 weeks in QT at normal SG will bring it up to over 10 weeks that the display was fishless. If I see any reoccurance in the QT I'll know the fish aren't fully clean, If I give them that extra couple of weeks at normal SG I'll be pretty confident that they are really clean. An extra couple of fishless weeks for the display can't hurt either for extra insurance.
We'll see.
jk
Plan was 6 weeks hypo after seeing no spots as that's the max time I've seen reccoended. Fish only showed spots for a few days in the display and I began catching them ASAP (infection started with a new fish). No spots seen in the QT even in the time before I began dropping the SG. 6 weeks stretched to 7 just because I was busy and distracted so I waited several extra days before I started bringing the SG back up.
I, like you, am on a mission to beat this bug. I just want to eliminate all the loose ends that I can.
So far so good, but I'd rather have the parasite re occur in the QT than when the fish go back into the display. I figure an extra 2 weeks in QT at normal SG will bring it up to over 10 weeks that the display was fishless. If I see any reoccurance in the QT I'll know the fish aren't fully clean, If I give them that extra couple of weeks at normal SG I'll be pretty confident that they are really clean. An extra couple of fishless weeks for the display can't hurt either for extra insurance.
We'll see.
jk
guitarfish
Premium Member
Sounds like you answered your own question. 
As the end of hypo comes, I always find myself saying, "I can wait another week or two..."
As the end of hypo comes, I always find myself saying, "I can wait another week or two..."
guyguerra
Premium Member
Jimmy, you'r plan sounds solid. My fish did develop Ich again after 6 weeks of hypo, and I had done exactly what you are doing, so it was easy to treat with copper, which finally beat it. I believe the two weeks at regular salinity is your final proof, and if you'r like I was, I was determined NEVER to let Ich back in my display.
An update on mine, they have been in Cupramine since 10-19 and (unless I'm mistaken, as there is a spot on the tang, but I don't think it's Ich) and Ich dropped off in a couple of days and hasn't been back. So I'm starting my six week count from 10-23. If this one spot I'm seeing isn't Ich, they'll be moved on Decenber 4th to a Nano cube for a week or two, and if no signs re appear, they get to go to the big tank.
Guitarfish, I'm going to PM a picture of my guitar collection, there are 40 in all.
An update on mine, they have been in Cupramine since 10-19 and (unless I'm mistaken, as there is a spot on the tang, but I don't think it's Ich) and Ich dropped off in a couple of days and hasn't been back. So I'm starting my six week count from 10-23. If this one spot I'm seeing isn't Ich, they'll be moved on Decenber 4th to a Nano cube for a week or two, and if no signs re appear, they get to go to the big tank.
Guitarfish, I'm going to PM a picture of my guitar collection, there are 40 in all.
guitarfish
Premium Member
guyguerra said:
AWESOME !!!
Triggerfish
Active member
New camera
New camera
couple pics with new camera
Kodak Z740
middle
New camera
couple pics with new camera
Kodak Z740
middle
guitarfish
Premium Member
Wow, nice tank. I definitely don't see any ich in there. :lol: :lol:
OK I said I would respond with the results of the product I was going to try. It states reef safe and invert safe. So I gave it a try and the stuff smells like Tabasco sauce. It took some courage to put it in the tank. I only have button polyps as far as coral goes so I figured why not the ick was getting bad and I don't have a big enough tank to quarantine all my fish. So I tried Chem Martin Stop Parasites and I guess it worked. My Angel fish loved the stuff and would eat it up. The button polyps closed up tight but after the 5 days treatment opened back up and are fine. This stuff is supposed to feed the parasites unhealthy food causing them to die off and interrupt their cycle.
Since then I have added UV to my tank and wow... I cant believe how clean my water has gotten. I used to be pretty proud of how clean my water was, but nothing like this. Why I never got the UV in the first place is beyond me. Algae and everything is doing great. No more sickness in my tank.
My Green Mandarin goby didn't make it though. He died before I got the stuff in but he was in my quarantine tank. I really liked him so much. He had a pimple on his back. The thing grew and popped oozing this white puss. I was treating him for the infection with maracyn but he was just too sick.
He was my favorite fish. I haven't even thought about getting another because it just isn't the same..
Anyway the stuff seems to work, but it irritates corals, No effect on inverts (I had snails crabs and cleaner shrimp). If you have no other choice but to treat in your display I guess it would be worth a shot.
Since then I have added UV to my tank and wow... I cant believe how clean my water has gotten. I used to be pretty proud of how clean my water was, but nothing like this. Why I never got the UV in the first place is beyond me. Algae and everything is doing great. No more sickness in my tank.
My Green Mandarin goby didn't make it though. He died before I got the stuff in but he was in my quarantine tank. I really liked him so much. He had a pimple on his back. The thing grew and popped oozing this white puss. I was treating him for the infection with maracyn but he was just too sick.
He was my favorite fish. I haven't even thought about getting another because it just isn't the same..Anyway the stuff seems to work, but it irritates corals, No effect on inverts (I had snails crabs and cleaner shrimp). If you have no other choice but to treat in your display I guess it would be worth a shot.
guitarfish
Premium Member
How long has it been since you started the treatment? Because ich naturally falls off the fish anyway, you may not know for sure until 6 weeks or more.
guyguerra
Premium Member
xvinnyax, I too would like to know more about the length of treatment and the amount of time that's gone by before saying these fish are Ich free. You will see that most of us feel it takes six weeks after the last sign of Ich to feel comfortable that it's gone, and then for the paranoid (like me), two more weeks in a non treated tank to see if it recurs.
As a note on my group, I said on the 10th that there was a spot on my Kole Tang that I did not think was Ich. Well, the spot is gone today, which makes me think it was an Ich spot that fell off, though it was the largest Ich spot I've seen so far. Now I'll start my six week count from today. Again, I'm thankful that I QT'd these fish. It's been a breeze treating them and isn't worrying or bothering me a bit. When I had it in my display last winter, It bothered me daily.
As a note on my group, I said on the 10th that there was a spot on my Kole Tang that I did not think was Ich. Well, the spot is gone today, which makes me think it was an Ich spot that fell off, though it was the largest Ich spot I've seen so far. Now I'll start my six week count from today. Again, I'm thankful that I QT'd these fish. It's been a breeze treating them and isn't worrying or bothering me a bit. When I had it in my display last winter, It bothered me daily.
jimmyj7090
aka John K
So far so good for me. The discoloration on my P.tang's pec fins are the same after 5 days, I don't think it's Ick spots, just paranoia.
Triggerfish, your tank looks great. Are you going to the 11/20 meeting? If so maybe we could meet up and talk about this battle, (face to face is so much easier than via internet)?
jk
Triggerfish, your tank looks great. Are you going to the 11/20 meeting? If so maybe we could meet up and talk about this battle, (face to face is so much easier than via internet)?
jk
- Status
Similar threads
