In-Wall 180 Project

Good points, both of you! Doh!!:eek1:

They are sitting on the floor underneath my feet. I was wondering why they were looking at me funny! :D

A union on each connection (space permitted, I'm a little worried about fitting unions on the closed loop return bulkheads), a valve on each closed loop pump outlet after the union (the vertical span of spa-flex), and a valve on each end of the closed loop feeds.
 
jarhed

Unions and valves on both feed and returns so you can pull the pumps for service. Set the pumps a little lower on shelves if you need more room to do it. You won't lose any flow to head as it's closed loop only to friction thru the union and valve, but it U need to pull'em, it'll be worth it.

What are those, Little Giant 3-MDQXs? With 2 of them that should be nice flow!
 
Oh, I see you'r thinking to put them at the tank bulk as well. I don't know that U need to that, just at the pump with the BV between the Union and pump on feed and return. once lose, U can always deal with the spaflex at the bulkhead if needed.

Like'n this set up :)
 
Kewl, thanks Bax!

Yeah, I figure definitely on both feed and return. I figured putting a union on the output side, then the valve just like you said. Dont think I'm putting unions on each individual return hole though. I figure the pumps will definitely be coming off every now and again for cleaning.

The pumps are an Iwaki (dont remember exactly which one) and a Little Giant 3. Have another Little Giant to feed the Beckett skimmer and a GenX for a return pump.
 
Got off my lazy behind tonight and put the valves onto my closed loop. Still debating whether or not I should throw some valves next to the output for the closed loop. As you can see, not much space there and the spaflex is already pretty tight together. I imagine if I extended one drain out about three inches or so, I could put a valve in there. It'll be a VERY short span of Spaflex then! :D

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nice job using spa flex.. is it noisy?

and i think you coulda done without the first union after the elbows on the bulkheads. no point since there no valve there to stop the tank from draining
 
Valves look good. I agree that you could eliminate the unions closest to the tank on the suction side.

One thing I do with my unions is keep them consistant as far as in and out go. Does not matter for funtionality, but it helps if you have to swap things around sometime.
 
qwuintus said:
nice job using spa flex.. is it noisy?

and i think you coulda done without the first union after the elbows on the bulkheads. no point since there no valve there to stop the tank from draining
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Thanks Quintus, I havent gotten any water through them yet to see about the noise level. Good point on the unions, but I put them there because I havent decided whether or not to attempt to squeeze some valves on that end of the spaflex. Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend. I bought 10' of spaflex and it's all in little pieces everywhere!!:mad2: What a waste.

I'm trying to think of situations where I may want to remove the spaflex from the outputs and just cant come up with anything. I know I'll be pulling the pumps every now and again, but thats about it. I can shut down the valves before and after the pump to pull pumps and keep water in the spaflex. Any ideas?

BTW, my RBTA split two days ago. Looked ok, and both were sitting on the back of the 40gallon, the baby trying to hide underneath the overflow. Came home yesterday and the baby was inside the overflow. When I reached for him, he dropped into the water and then through the u-tube. I managed to get him and put him back in the tank, but I cant find momma! :eek1:

Where oh where did momma anenome go? She's not in the sump, she's not in the overflow, I PRAY she's not stuck in the overflow tube! Cant see her under the rocks... :confused:
 
lol wow that sux,, She is probably in a hole somewhere..

Your setup is looking good.. I think you will be very happy with it.. I would LOVE to have an area I could set a tank with a equipment room behind it..
 
jarhed said:
My 2-year old son loved it! :smokin:
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Lol, you DO realize that by the time he's 4 he'll have tried to demolish his room in the same way, right? Kids soak it all in:)
 
Thanks all!! :D

Still cant find the momma anenome. No biggie. Baby seems to be doing fine. Nemo decided to jump out of the tank for some reason. Didnt see him all day on Friday and most of the day Saturday. Found his dried up body on the floor near the back of my 40gallon. RIP buddy. Guess he was a little ticked that his home decided to act weird.

Got the plumbing done last weekend. Even ran electricity and didnt kill myself! :lol: I filled the tank with the garden hose to look for leaks, found a couple, fixed em, filled it again and the sump. Fired up the closed loop, works fine, although my Little Giant 4MDQ-SC isnt as quiet as I'd like it. The other closed loop pump is an Iwaki MD30 RXT, nice and quiet. I fired up the GenX PCX40 return pump.........

:eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1:

That thing is LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I closed the fishroom door and went into the garage and STILL heard it!!! But it works. No leaks. Entire plumbing system is beautiful, including my modified Stockman Standpipe (no room for the turns in a Durso).

I'm calling Marine Depot today to go pickup a Pan World 50PX-X (Supposed to be quieter than an Iwaki). I had to valve back the GenX because I hadnt closed up the top of the Stockman standpipe to provide more drainage flow and the GenX started sucking air, so it may have run down around 1000gph. I figure the Pan World will give me 1110 (down from 1190 in the GenX) and could possibly eliminate the need to meter back the flow. I really dont want to spend the money, but I cant bear to hear that GenX anymore! :mad2: That piece of garbage is for sale cheap!

Pics coming tonight!
 
jarhed

Nice to hear you've got water in there.
I have a Little Giant 3MDQX-SC on a CL on my 75 in my office and I can't think when it's running. Glad to hear the Pan Worlds are so quiet, got a 50-PX comming in the mail :)

I'll use the LG on my next project so no worries.
 
Thanks guys!

I dont think the GenX is supposed to be that loud, but last night I put some earplugs in and went to the computer to search RC and found several references to how loud the GenX is. I think mine is just old. Sounds like metal on metal!! Like dragging a car down a concrete highway on it's roof!! :lol: :lol:

I figure another day or so playing with the tap water, then it's drain time again. It should take me about 3-4 days to fill the tank with RO/DI with my 75gpd system. That doesnt take into account how much R/O water goes through my fridge for drinking water.

I still have to hang the lights, come up with an affordable but effective and simple control panel system. Still debating building a switch/plug system on plywood or using the American DJ switches. Either way, all of the pump outlets WILL have GFCI's on them. Not playing with fire here, this house costs too much for where I live to let it burn up! :mad2:
 
Jarhead - cant wait to see what you come up with for the power panel. i love what some of the poeple have done with theirs. i think the DJ power strips looks the best and easiest (?).

one thing, I dont think you'll need to get GFIs on all your outlets. I think you can just put one on each circuit to cover all the outlets on that circuit?
 
bheron said:
Jarhead - cant wait to see what you come up with for the power panel. i love what some of the poeple have done with theirs. i think the DJ power strips looks the best and easiest (?).

one thing, I dont think you'll need to get GFIs on all your outlets. I think you can just put one on each circuit to cover all the outlets on that circuit?
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Yeah, thats actually a good point bheron. If I do the DJ strip, I'll pull three lines off of it to three individual outlets with GFCI for the pumps so they arent plugged directly into the strip. One for the skimmer pump, one for the return, and one for both closed loop pumps. I figure definitely putting GFCI wherever electricity meets water. Possibly even connect the calc reactor feed and circ pumps and the "plug in on demand" water mixing bin pump (Rio 2100). I figure the heater(s) will be ok on the light circuit (I ran two 20amp circuits, one for pumps, one for lighting).

Thoughts?
 
Hey Jarhed,

This is Ali, I talked to you on the phone a lil' earlier today. Sweet set up bro. Nice job with that electrical stuff. ;) Anyway, Good luck with it, it has a heck of a lot of potential.
 
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