is FISH BOWL a TOILET BOWL or a work in progress?
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a1amap
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You know, I didn't want to even open this thread to read it because the title sounded so negative. Afetr reading it I see you were trying to give a complement. I have to agree with cd0
As for the Fish Bowl, I have also heard a lot of good things recently. Next time I am down that way I plan on stopping in.
The topic title is not as flattering as I think you meant.
As for the Fish Bowl, I have also heard a lot of good things recently. Next time I am down that way I plan on stopping in.
Jocephus
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Whenever we get to the point of choosing our words wisely as to not offend potential sponsors we all need to end our club memberships. We aren't selling airtime here. Forums were invented to air opinions, people. How much sponsorship does a Delaware reef club really need?
To the OP, I think you are right in saying it looked real crappy a couple of months ago, and it AAABSOLUTELY is looking better. Still has a way to go, but much better.
To the OP, I think you are right in saying it looked real crappy a couple of months ago, and it AAABSOLUTELY is looking better. Still has a way to go, but much better.
a1amap
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Actually I wasn't referring to sponsorship, but there is a need to choose words wisely. Everything you put out on the internet is there for everyone to see, whether true or just a lopsided opinion, and it usually can't be withdrawn. I think he was trying to pay a complement but it sounded more like a dig. Thats what I was referring to by my statement. If all the fish stores felt there were no reason to stay open how far are you willing to drive at $4 per gallon to get supplies?
martinfaimly
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WE ALL HAVE A VISION OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE OR HOW TO RUN A LFS, BUT WE DONT OWN ONE. AND YES SHE IS TRYING TO BRING IN MORE FISH THROUGH A NEW SUPPLIER. AND ACTUALLY HER PRICES ARE BEATING A GOOD PART OF THE LFS I HAVE BEEN IN. WE ALL SHOULD BE GIVING HER IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE,...NEVER KNOW SHE MAY LISTEN...TRY SELLING HER FRAGS SO SHE CAN SELL THEM IS A IDEA.
jayke
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I agree with a1a. Discussing personal experiences is one thing. If you have a problem or want to warn others of a negative experience I say do it. Making derogatory comments such as referring to a store as a toilet or making fun of the employees hair really accomplishes very little. In a sense, owners of these stores tend to shy away from sites like this because they don't like to hear some of the comments. Again, negative opinions are one thing and a good LFS would take those in account and try to improve their services. Derogatory comments only keep them from coming back to these sites and in turn missing out on a great resource.
cdangel0
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"Does anyone else feel the FISHBOWL has been improving?" just sounds a lot nicer then "FISHBOWL or TOILETTE BOWL"?
I have been in the business of telling people things they don't want to hear for a long time, I've found it much more effective to choose my words wosely and not come off as insulting or or derogatory.
That's all I was saying.
I have been in the business of telling people things they don't want to hear for a long time, I've found it much more effective to choose my words wosely and not come off as insulting or or derogatory.
That's all I was saying.
That's nice.
Joe, I agree. We are not selling airtime here. But this kind of drivel isn't necessary, or in my case, wanted.
You want an opinion ... here's mine ...
(1) I do not need, or want, to read personal attacks on a store owner like we see above
(2) I do not want to be associated with someone who consistently posts trash like we see above
and
(3) I do not want DRC's name associated with someone who consistently posts trash like we see above, especially if they are not a current member.
OAO
Jocephus
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Ted, I wholeheartedly agree that there is no reason to attack anyone personally. The unfortunate (or fortunate, depending on your view) thing about reef central forums is that whether a member or not, anyone can post on a reef club forum. I believe it's a good thing. I don't think my $20 per year makes my opinion any more valuable. I'm sure most feel the same way. My comments were meant to point out that censorship of people's posts are entirely against what forums are all about. If we want to start a mutual admiration society, let's just do it on another thread.
firecrackerbob
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cdangel0-just out of curiosity, what business would that be? im going to guess dentist? maybe proctologist? i suppose cops have to do a lot of that as well... lol
...im not going to bother getting involved in the age old issue of this thread...
...im not going to bother getting involved in the age old issue of this thread...
It's not about the $/year. It's not whether a member's opinion is more or less valuable than a non-member's. And it's not about a mutual admiration society. I'm not saying we cannot criticize. I'm not looking for a love-fest.
But when a forum has a title that's exactly the same as a club, everyone who posts on that forum is more or less presenting an image (to an outsider) of that club. And that is my point. Like it or not, each of us (and our conduct here) reflects on one another to some degree.
I'm not stating an opinion about the OP. I have no issue with that. I am specifically pointing to Shnabble's post, in particular the last part. That's the kind of garbage I'm tired of. Frankly, we could do with less venom and more constructive criticism.
And that's the rub. There are people who post here (and it's not just Shnabbles) who either don't know, don't understand, or don't care about the difference between constructive and destructive criticism.
Shnabbles
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Well lets see... i know the difference... i understand the difference.. i guess that just leaves i dont care.
You need to lighten up. <--- constructive criticism
hottuna asked for feed back on a local store... And i made 1 positive statement... and 1 sarcastic statement... I didnt even make a negative statement.... yet
If you asked if a local mechanic was good or bad wouldnt you want to know that he ripped people off and charged excessively for work that didnt need to be done?
Hottuna this message is for you.
The fish bowl sucks compared to other local stores, plain and simple. Save your money and buy your fish at some of the other local shops... <--- Deconstructive criticism
I would like to announce i am a not a DRC member and what i say should in now way effect any possible discount DRC members may recieve in the future.
You need to lighten up. <--- constructive criticism
hottuna asked for feed back on a local store... And i made 1 positive statement... and 1 sarcastic statement... I didnt even make a negative statement.... yet
If you asked if a local mechanic was good or bad wouldnt you want to know that he ripped people off and charged excessively for work that didnt need to be done?
Hottuna this message is for you.
The fish bowl sucks compared to other local stores, plain and simple. Save your money and buy your fish at some of the other local shops... <--- Deconstructive criticism
I would like to announce i am a not a DRC member and what i say should in now way effect any possible discount DRC members may recieve in the future.
ronert : I built my own lfs from scratch in 1978...and later sold it at a premium...I know what good is...and what it is not...If the owner of fish bowl would stop telling me stupid things like "anemones dont need much light " everytime I suggest more lighting on the anemone tank ...then I would say she is on the right track...If she remains ignorant...and ignores good suggestions...then the store will ultimately become "the toilet bowl" ....
shnabbles and I will just have to shop elsewhere...
shnabbles and I will just have to shop elsewhere...
If you go into any LFS asking for advice I have a feeling that you will come out with just about all of the equipment and livestock you need, according to them.... its just good business. In my posts you'll notice that I only say that the stock and the look of the tanks in general is improving... which is absolutely true. However, I wouldn't believe anything that any fish store employee tells me when I'm shopping there unless I go home and research it for myself... for that matter that is what I do for anything people tell me, not just LFS employees.
Jocephus
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I repeat, I believe it is getting better, but come on guys. I've never purchased supplies from the Fish Bowl, mainly because they don't sell any of worth. Their prices are absolutely higher than other LFS's. They are trying to improve, so they should be supported. But don't try to make me believe that they are reasonably priced, or that they have what you need just around the corner. Icy, you're four blocks away. Have you ever bought dry goods there? Josh? Anyone? Bueller?
tuna;
My argument isn't if the store is good or not. Sorry if you thought it was. I obviously haven't made that clear enough.
shnabbles;
Evidently, you missed the point as well. My point isn't about $ or discounts. And, FYI, your sarcastic statement does reflect negatively.
I'm done with this thread.
