Is this lens good for macro shots?

You can go for that one: http://www.adorama.com/TM9028NEOS.html
A bit more expensive, but it deserves it for sure!

Someone else mentioned this lens for that price range:

http://www.adorama.com/SG10528DEOS.html?searchinfo=sigma+macro

How does it compare to the one you suggested?

I see there are a lot of 40D bodies on ebay for $300-$500 to be had & most of them are in mint condition. Its just a matter of catching the right deal...

And most people who buy DSLR cameras do baby them, so the odds are there to get a good camera off ebay.
 
I can't tell you for Sigma, because I haven't test it before.

I own the Tamron with Canon 500D and I' m very very pleased.:thumbsup:
 
From someone else on another forum:
the tamron is a great lens as well.

the first lens you linked to would be useful for everyday shooting as well as tank shots. you can always crop the images to 1:1.


what are the real differences between the one he linked to & the Tamron then?

Regardless neither one of those are able to be "universal" day to day and also take pretty good macros like the first one I linked to?

I may even look for a good deal on a particular lens... is there anything I should take into consideration when buying a lens off there?

Should I still be looking for the same lens on ebay, or perhaps be able to upgrade to a better lens that is a great deal, still within my price range?
 
The "Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro AutoFocus Super Wide Angle Zoom Lens for Canon EOS Digital Cameras" you linked is not a macro lens. It might work for your general day to day but NOT macro. With a maximum magnification of 1:2.3 it isn't even close. It is IMPOSSIBLE to crop to 1:1. Cropping is a vaguely-related but non-relevant topic. It will always be 1:2.3 without heavy modifications to the lens itself. In your camera you have an image sensor which is effectively digital film. Think of a classic roll of 35mm film. Those yellow kodak tubes with the brown squares that are ruined if light touches them. A 1:1 image states that the coral polyp you are taking a picture of is the same size projected onto that little square as it is in real life. When you develop the film and make a 4x6 print, the data on that film strip is blown up and now it looks much larger than it does in real life. This is the definition of macro photography. 1:1 is either achieved or not achieved when you press the button that goes ::click::. No amount of work on your computer after the fact can change that.


"How well will this lens work to take good up close macro shots of nano tanks, corals, inverts etc?"
This lens will not take "good up close macro shots of corals", but it will take a picture. You can take the soccer van to a local race track and drive it around the course, but you can't expect to complete with the guys who have cars designed to race on a track.

"Now mind you, this lens isnt going to be soley just for macro shots & I can only afford 1 lens right now."
Perhaps you should re-consider buying a DSLR. Using multiple lenses for different effects is the name of the game. There are many nice point and shoot cameras on the market capable of regular shots and macro. They won't do it as well as a properly equipped DSLR, but many will do it better than a poorly equipped DSLR. Check out the Canon G-11 for instance. I might also recommend a cheap prime, such as the 50 f/1.8 to get you buy until you can afford more lenses (it's super cheap). My 24-70 f/2.8 was stolen (grrrr) and I am getting by okay with a 50 f/1.4. There are shots I miss without the 24-70 and I miss it dearly but I am getting by. I am shooting a space shuttle launch in a few hours for instance and wish I could go wider, but many day to day shots can be tackled by a 50mm lens.

If you go the DSLR route, you are going to have to make a choice:
Day to day shots...or macro shots. The 17-70 "macro" lens you posted would work alright for day to day shots. The 90mm macro amorealex mentioned will work for macro shooting. Either can do the other's job but neither does it particularly well.

If you choose to go the Macro route I would recommend the Canon 100mm f/2.8:
http://www.adorama.com/CA10028AFN.html?searchinfo=canon+100mm+f/2.8
This is what the great majority of Canon DSLR users on Reef Central use.
 
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Just because I cant afford to buy multiple lenses at once doesnt mean I should detour from buying a DSLR...

As much as I'd love to buy just a macro lens right now, I will get more use from the day to day lens. I will get a dedicated macro lens in the future when I can.

Someone also is selling this lens with a body I am considering buy:

is it better than the Sigma I linked to?

the canon 28-135 IS
 
I know your the man TS and I definitely respect your opinion, but I happen to like my 28-135mm a lot. It was kind of forced upon me when I bought my 7D (long story) but I refuse to sell it. Maybe because my collection of lenses is still new and for what I paid for it, it isn't worth selling... But I happen to think it takes pretty good pictures and the focal range is pretty usable IMO. Not very wide but will work for most every day shots. In fact, I think for a beginner just getting into DSLR the 28-135mm will be quite useful. Maybe that is why they put it in the kit... :D The only advantage I see with the Sigma is the available f/2.8 at its widest focal length. Although I am trying to think how often I shoot wide open at 17mm... I think I shoot mostly around 50mm in available light... In that case spend another $50 or so and get the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 across the range. :thumbsup: But now were just going off tangent here, just get the 28-135mm with the body and save up for a macro. Unless you want to spend an extra couple hundred bucks and get a lens you can keep for a long time, then get the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 or the 28-75mm f/2.8 which I personally own but sometimes think I should have gone with the 17-50... lol.
 
In fact, I think for a beginner just getting into DSLR the 28-135mm will be quite useful. Maybe that is why they put it in the kit...

They put it into the kit because it's very cheaply made and they make money from it. ;)

I can't recommend that lens to anyone, for any reason.
 
It's an okay lens, but it's not a macro. There is no such thing as a "zoom" macro lens, regardless of what it says.
 
Ok, thanks. Boy I never realized 'decent' cameras were almost as expensive as reef aquariums!
 
They put it into the kit because it's very cheaply made and they make money from it. ;)

I can't recommend that lens to anyone, for any reason.

Fair enough... :beer:

I still like it... And it seems to get pretty good reviews everywhere. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty that agree with you (although maybe not as harsh). But for the most part the consensus is that it takes relatively good pictures for the price. Not a bad starter lens. Atleast until he figures out what he really wants.

I just re-read the original post and noticed you say you are looking for a lens "solely for macro shots". Like stated above none of those will do what your looking to do. For that you need a real macro lens. I have heard good things about the Tamron 90mm but for not much more you can get the Canon 100mm f/2.8 macro which is what everybody with a Canon is using... But it looks like you also want something for "Day-to-Day shooting". Since the kit lens is so cheap new and you can likely find a used kit for not much more than the body only, I still recommend you find a used kit with the 28-135mm and use the rest of your money to buy a dedicated Macro lens. That will satisfy both your requirements and still should stay in your budget.
 
They put it into the kit because it's very cheaply made and they make money from it. ;)

I can't recommend that lens to anyone, for any reason.

So I shouldnt buy the deal that guy is offering me for $1000 since it has that lens?

I think I can find a 40D body for around $350-400 on ebay & can probably find the Sigma for around $300-$350 if I looked hard. That puts everything right around $750 which is a great price to be at.
 
Try looking throught POTN (google it). You can find used 40D's and 100mm macros all day long. Since the release to the 100mm L, the last version goes for $400-$425.
 
Try looking throught POTN (google it). You can find used 40D's and 100mm macros all day long. Since the release to the 100mm L, the last version goes for $400-$425.

Yeah I got on there a couple of days ago. Seems these 40D's go pretty quick and are ranging from around $500-600.
 
Maybe you should look into purchasing your "everyday" lens and buy some extension tubes.

Other than saving money, will those give me a better picture? Or will the dedicated lens give me the better picture? if so I'll just go with the dedicated lens...
 
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