invincible569
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I was wondering what Xaqua was. I saw it on a couple of people's signature. Is this an italian brand?
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I was wondering what Xaqua was. I saw it on a couple of people's signature. Is this an italian brand?
Still wanting to know what most over there are using to bring their MG levels up. I know there are many methods; just curious about what they are doing in Italy.
I'd also like to know if there are tanks where people are doing the high feed protien mix WITHOUT the HGH and what is their growth rates.
Thanks,
Todd
I'd also like to know if there are tanks where people are doing the high feed protien mix WITHOUT the HGH and what is their growth rates.
Thanks,
Todd
invincible569
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Todd, if you are having issues bringing Mg levels up, you may want to raise your salinity levels (concetration is stronger). You may also want to check your salt brand. But like I said in a previous post, you can use a reactor with lower PH to dissolve the Mg media. I know you are looking for the Italian way.. but maybe this will get you started off somewhere.
The method without the HGH reminds of the Eric Borneman coral food.
trueblackpercula
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Ok I would like to thank everyone that has posted information and pictures to this tread. I would like to participate with HGH were do I obtain it and how much of it do I add? I know that there is no such thing as a Magic Bullet but here in America everything is shunned upon if it is not a marketing issue. Lets try and keep our minds open to this new technology and see if it will work first before some of us bash it or say things like is this ethical to add HGH to our tanks. If anyone would like to share information with me private please do so. I have always kept an open mind towards others in different parts of the world to see what they do and try and apply this to my own setup. I would really like to know more about these tanks but I can’t read Italian from some of the links. The tanks pictured above are of incredible magnitude and should be in my opinion look at further for future reference as to how to keep reef aquaria. Please do not take anything I say as bashing but threads like this always get closed because people start hating on each other and I for one would like to learn more about this………………keep the info rolling.
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P.S.S. sorry for the rant
P.S. invincible569 If there is some secret society that I can join please feel free to send me a pm or email at miezza@msn.com
P.S.S. sorry for the rant
invincible569
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If you want to know more about the HGH blu coral method.. here's some more info (credit goes to Fabio-Sir who has used this system and is also at 1600mg):
HGH is not absorbed by the coral, but it affects its cellularly (membrane level) creating special proteins. Theoriticaly that is.
In order to prevent high PO4/Nitrates, you can use a ice cube tray to make this solution and slice them up even more dosing 2-3 times a week. It all depends on the coral load.
HGH is not absorbed by the coral, but it affects its cellularly (membrane level) creating special proteins. Theoriticaly that is.
In order to prevent high PO4/Nitrates, you can use a ice cube tray to make this solution and slice them up even more dosing 2-3 times a week. It all depends on the coral load.
speckled trout
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At least one of the tanks had A LOT of fish. It was several pages back or on one of the links. They were larger fish, too. I think they were tangs. I'll have to go back and look, but I know I saw one that had unbelieveable growth and color that contained quite a few and fairly large ones at that.
invincible569
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LOL. The experienced HGH users say it does not affect the fish.
RichConley
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yeah, theyre all good growth, but its mostly big stags...which grow like weeds anyway.
Gorgeous tanks, but I'd bet the HGH has absolutely NOTHING to do with it.
A human hormone isnt going to affect a coral. The biology is too different. If they are using them, its as food, IE theyre breaking down and digesting them as a nitrogen/phosphate source.
This is just an example of the obvious: Great water parameters, lots of flow, good light.
RichConley
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Either that, or the whole BB/DSB argument is retarded, and its really about whether or not you do it right.
I asked my dad about this over a year ago. Of course everything went flying over the top of my head at the speed of sound. But the end result was a suggestion to try amino's Q or Z in fairly large doses. I never did anything with the info but someone may want to give it a shot.
Don
Not at my college it wasn't. Unfortunately, now it seems...
From Wikipedia:
"Growth hormone (GH) is also called somatropin and somatotropin (British: somatotrophin). hGH refers to human growth hormone and is an abbreviation for human GH measured in the extracts from human pituitary glands. In 1985, biosynthetic human growth hormone replaced pituitary-derived human growth hormone for therapeutic use in the U.S. and elsewhere. Biosynthetic human growth hormone, also referred to as recombinant human growth hormone, is also called somatropin and abbreviated as rhGH. Since the mid-1990s the abbreviation HGH has begun to carry paradoxical connotations, and now rarely refers to real GH used for indicated purposes."
Even more interesting info:
"Functions of GH:
Effects of growth hormone on the tissues of the body can generally be described as anabolic (building up). Like most other protein hormones GH acts by interacting with a specific receptor on the surface of cells.
Height growth in childhood is the best known effect of GH action, and appears to be stimulated by at least two mechanisms. 1. GH directly stimulates division and multiplication of chondrocytes of cartilage. These are the primary cells in the growing ends (epiphyses) of children's long bones (arms, legs, digits). 2. GH also stimulates production of insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF1, formerly known as somatomedin C), a hormone homologous to proinsulin. The liver is a major target organ of GH for this process, and is the principal site of IGF-1 production. IGF-1 has growth-stimulating effects on a wide variety of tissues. Additional IGF-1 is generated within target tissues, making it apparently both an endocrine and an autocrine/paracrine hormone. IGF-1 will also have stimulatory effects on osteoblast and chondrocyte activity to promote bone growth.
Although height growth is the best known effect of GH, it serves many other metabolic functions as well. GH increases calcium retention, and strengthens and increases the mineralization of bone. It increases muscle mass through the creation of new muscle cells (which differs from hypertrophy), and it also promotes lipolysis, which results in the reduction of adipose tissue (body fat). As well, it increases protein synthesis and stimulates the growth of all internal organs excluding the brain. GH plays a role in fuel homeostasis. GH reduces liver uptake of glucose, an effect that opposes that of insulin. GH also contributes to the maintenance and function of pancreatic islets. GH stimulates the immune system."
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