enitnelaVeyaF
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isn't 'jap' a racial slur? im just suprised to hear it used to refer to japanese corals. maybe im old school. 
'jap' as a reference
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smcnally
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I guess it all depends on how sesitive you are. I would consider it an abreviation for the word Japanese. But with all the PC sensitive people in thes country lately, it could be considered something bad to say. In my opinion though, if anyone got offended by it, I would think they are either overly sensitive, or have more time on their hands than they know what to do with. If the people typing it meant it in an offensive way, they could use much more creative racial slurs than that.
All Delight
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I'm Japanese and it offends me. Last person to say it to me in person got punched in the nose.
But racial crap happens everywhere, so its kinda whatever.
But racial crap happens everywhere, so its kinda whatever.
chrisstie
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I could say im offended by what you're wearing in your icon but I don't. This is the internet where abbreviations, leet speak, and all sorts of other things that can be done online that normally wouldn't offline take place.
I think if someone says "jap brain coral " they mean "jap. brain coral" but its the internet, who bothers to write proper english? One must look at the intent.
Even if it was used as a slur, what are they doing trying to offend the coral? lol
I think if someone says "jap brain coral " they mean "jap. brain coral" but its the internet, who bothers to write proper english? One must look at the intent.
Even if it was used as a slur, what are they doing trying to offend the coral? lol
Fliger
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I'm personally offended although this is the first time I've ever mentioned it. You can argue semantics and perfect world explanations all you want, but the bottom line is that its a word that is/has been used in a derogatory fashion for many, many years. It has nothing to do with being PC, my friends will tell you that I'm very un-PC. :lol:
I could elaborate but I won't. Its also kind of hard to explain it to a person who is in the majority segment in a region (I'm half Caucasion, half Asian). Comparing a picture of a pretty girl to a term that "in and of itself" is used by some to put down people is quite a stretch. Is it really that much harder to include "anese"?
I could elaborate but I won't. Its also kind of hard to explain it to a person who is in the majority segment in a region (I'm half Caucasion, half Asian). Comparing a picture of a pretty girl to a term that "in and of itself" is used by some to put down people is quite a stretch. Is it really that much harder to include "anese"?
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1: Whether the person using it means to be offensive or finds it offensive is totally irrelevant. What matters is if people of Japanease descent are offended by it. If they are, just add the half dozen extra letters. If you aren't willing to push 6 buttons to keep from racially offending someone, then you are a jerk.
2: I, personally, love All Delight's Avatar
1: Whether the person using it means to be offensive or finds it offensive is totally irrelevant. What matters is if people of Japanease descent are offended by it. If they are, just add the half dozen extra letters. If you aren't willing to push 6 buttons to keep from racially offending someone, then you are a jerk.
2: I, personally, love All Delight's Avatar
smcnally
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I don't know...Maybe I'm just really laid back. I don't get offended when people make any racial comments about my origin. There are certain words that I can understand certain races being offended by. But, sometimes I think people that get offended by certain words are just people that enjoy getting confrontational. If someone used the word "Jap" to describe a person, then yes, I find that wrong. But when using it as an abbreviation for a coral, I find it silly for someone to get offended. Especially since the person typing it doesn't mean for it to be offensive. This country is getting so sensitive to everyone's feelings that is is almost to the point of being comical. I've noticed that as I've grown older, there seems to be more and more whiney, sue happy people. IMO, it doesn't seem to help us as a society at all.
DonavonsReef
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I don't use the term but I don't think anyone ever ment it in a derogatory way in these threads. No more than someone saying Acan instead of Acanthastrea.
jman77
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FYI... i was one of the individuals that used that word.
1) I didn't use it in a derogatory way, it was an abbreviation for where the coral came from,
2) It was never directed at an individual.
Now if I said . Where did you get that coral from u Jap .... then i can understand why you get all worked up.
But I used it as a abbreviation for the country
You can just see a word in a sentence and take it out of context.
1) I didn't use it in a derogatory way, it was an abbreviation for where the coral came from,
2) It was never directed at an individual.
Now if I said . Where did you get that coral from u Jap .... then i can understand why you get all worked up.
But I used it as a abbreviation for the country
You can just see a word in a sentence and take it out of context.
redFishblue
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People make racial comments about you being white?
I've heard white people make comments before about how minorities shouldn't be so sensitive, that's real easy to say. Its something else when you encounter repeated episodes of being treated different or being called racist names to your face. Its not a measure of how laid back I am when its offensive to me to be called a gook walking down the street minding my own business. If it offends Japanese people to see the word "Jap" cause it reminds them of all the racism they put up with in the past, don't be patronizing and say cause its they are not laid back enough.
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No one said anyone was trying to be offensive. But, clearly people found it offensive, so just stop. period.
smcnally: It is not an issue of being "laid back" it is an issue of using words folks consider racial slurs. If you are so "laid back" why are you arguing that folks shouldn't be offended when other (white) people use terms with a good deal of racial baggage (and that is putting it nicely) behind them?
Jman: I don't think that anyone believes that you meant harm, but it appears you caused it. Just refrain from doing it in the future and there shouldn't be a problem.
Just don't do it and there won't be a problem. It is not like people. It is not like us white folks will have a harder life if we stop using the word "jap"
lol, at redfish
smcnally: It is not an issue of being "laid back" it is an issue of using words folks consider racial slurs. If you are so "laid back" why are you arguing that folks shouldn't be offended when other (white) people use terms with a good deal of racial baggage (and that is putting it nicely) behind them?
Jman: I don't think that anyone believes that you meant harm, but it appears you caused it. Just refrain from doing it in the future and there shouldn't be a problem.
Just don't do it and there won't be a problem. It is not like people. It is not like us white folks will have a harder life if we stop using the word "jap"
lol, at redfish
smcnally
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The fact that people think that can't be done is in itself racist, don't you think?
Is "White" my origin? Nope...I'm Irish. But I don't get offended by being called "White", a "Mick", or a "Paddy". Nor do I get offended when people stereotype the Irish when they say Irish people are short tempered, are alchoholics, or have small genetalia. So are you implying that "white" people can't be racially offended?
redFishblue
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8440808#post8440808 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by smcnally
The fact that people think that can't be done is in itself racist, don't you think?
I'm glad you are laid back enough not to take offence
Sorry didn't mean white people can't be called racial names.
But I guess the Irish are a different category than other Caucasians in terms of having had to deal with racism in the past.
By the way, who says that stuff about the Irish other than comedians?
And is it true? j/k
racially offended, sure. doesn't it suck? why racially offend someone else? particularly if their racial discrimination goes a heck of a lot deeper than white ethnics in this country?
why do you think it is that you don't get offended when you hear derogatory comments about your Irish heritage? I am willing to bet that as a white guy living in Boston you don't face a whole heck of a lot of real discrimination. stuff like that is easier to brush off if you are not already dealing with the realities of racism in this country.
how many more posts until this gets locked by the mods?
why do you think it is that you don't get offended when you hear derogatory comments about your Irish heritage? I am willing to bet that as a white guy living in Boston you don't face a whole heck of a lot of real discrimination. stuff like that is easier to brush off if you are not already dealing with the realities of racism in this country.
how many more posts until this gets locked by the mods?
Fliger
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I can't believe this is still going on. I'm sure NO ONE that has used the term meant it in a derogatory sense. I would have said something and since it seems like half the reefers on the west coast are Asian I'm sure I wouldn't have been the only one. :lol: But the term itself is enough for some people to take offense to it. It takes a lot to offend me personally, but from someone who has personally seen my own mother be called a Jap, g**k, ch*nk, etc ... it does bother me. Sorry that it seems hard for some people to understand that. Again it has nothing to do with being PC. Its a term that offends people. I guess if you can't understand that, there is no getting thru to you. Hopefully you'll just shake your head like I'm an idiot but you'll refrain from using the term.
Now since I'm 50% Asian and the rest German/Irish, I'm gonna finish this beer and admire my Japanese micros. :lol:
Now since I'm 50% Asian and the rest German/Irish, I'm gonna finish this beer and admire my Japanese micros. :lol:
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