Karen and Rufus' Captive Bred Baby Bandits

That's so awesome, Wayne! Congrats dude :thumbsup:
Why Karen doesn't breed peppermint, narcosis, debulus or kingi? They're much more pricey. Same work?!?
She bred G. personatus as Wayne mentioned. Big $ there ;) C. debelius and A. kingi illegal for her. We'll be seeing lots more from Karen in the future :D
 
They are for sale, how do you think Wayne got them?:spin2: You just have to have the right connections:spin1:

Yeah, I purchased them from Karen and Rufus. I was told there were only four available - 2 went to Japan and I got the other 2.

Why Karen doesn't breed peppermint, narcosis, debulus or kingi? They're much more pricey. Same work?!?

As Austin mentioned, Karen was successful in breeding the g. Personatus last year and the Kingi and Debelius are illegal to collect and export in their current known areas.

But they aren't the same work. Some fish like the Peppermints and Narcosis are much harder to rear in captivity let alone getting them to breed. Just because you put two fish together doesn't mean they'll get busy with each other. Faith and Fabio are a good example.


Well, the pair have settled in well and are much more readily eating today. The hardest part so far is remembering to feed them every couple of hours! Here they are eating Spirulina Mysis. I must say that these little guys are much less shy and are fearless in their new temporary home, compared to the WC Bandits I've QT'd before.

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Very nice! Angels that small would have me seeking some anxiety meds.

Seriously! Why do you think you found me at the bar at MACNA?!? ;) It was nice to have finally met you at MACNA too. It's always nice to be able to put a face on a username.
 
Yeah, I purchased them from Karen and Rufus. I was told there were only four available - 2 went to Japan and I got the other 2.



As Austin mentioned, Karen was successful in breeding the g. Personatus last year and the Kingi and Debelius are illegal to collect and export in their current known areas.

But they aren't the same work. Some fish like the Peppermints and Narcosis are much harder to rear in captivity let alone getting them to breed. Just because you put two fish together doesn't mean they'll get busy with each other. Faith and Fabio are a good example.


Well, the pair have settled in well and are much more readily eating today. The hardest part so far is remembering to feed them every couple of hours! Here they are eating Spirulina Mysis. I must say that these little guys are much less shy and are fearless in their new temporary home, compared to the WC Bandits I've QT'd before.

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Awesome videos. Spectacular fish. That combination alone makes this an 5 star thread. Add in they are captive bred and you are over the top.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Awesome Wayne!!!!!!!!!

I call dibs - When your angels start to spawn I want in on the first round of offspring.

Although I hope I get to see your collection in person long before I come to visit my babies :)

Another amazing accomplishment by Karen.

Dave B
 
Update?

Update?

Wayne - I for one would not object if you posted updates on your Bandits (including more video) to this thread.

Hint, hint... :)
 
Wayne - I for one would not object if you posted updates on your Bandits (including more video) to this thread.

Hint, hint... :)

Sure thing!!! Well, I just performed their last tank transfer today and they've handled TTM like little champs! It's amazing how hearty captive bred fish are. I'm a little scared to write this because I don't want Karen to see and get worried, but they endured pretty warm water temperatures. We just went through a mini-heat wave here in Los Angeles and their water temperature got up to like 82-83 degrees! But they were just fine and kept their ravenous appetites. I feed them 3-4 times a day and they eagerly eat at each feeding. I'd actually try to feed them more, but I'm worried that it would start mucking up their water too much. Anyway, here's another video of them chowing down.

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On Sunday, I'm going to put them into my 50g refugium that's plumbed into my main reef tank. I'm going to let them grow out a bit in there because right now, they're small enough to fit through the overflow teeth! More videos to come!
 
Nice Wayne. Glad to see they're in good hands.
On a side note, what do you use the formalin for?

Hey Mike,

Thanks I use the Formalin for baths. I learned this from Karen as this is what they do at the Waikiki Aquarium. They use 1ml/gallon and let the fish soak in there for 45 mins. I do this with all new fish. So in between each tank transfer, they perform this bath. You have to also make sure the water is very well aerated too.
 
Thanks for the info. Do you do with all species of fish you aquire?

Yeah, all. However, not as often with wrasses as I find that they're a lot more sensitive. But I do do it all the time especially with angels and tangs since they're known carriers of ich and flukes.
 
Sure thing!!! Well, I just performed their last tank transfer today and they've handled TTM like little champs! It's amazing how hearty captive bred fish are. I'm a little scared to write this because I don't want Karen to see and get worried, but they endured pretty warm water temperatures. We just went through a mini-heat wave here in Los Angeles and their water temperature got up to like 82-83 degrees! But they were just fine and kept their ravenous appetites. I feed them 3-4 times a day and they eagerly eat at each feeding. I'd actually try to feed them more, but I'm worried that it would start mucking up their water too much. Anyway, here's another video of them chowing down.

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On Sunday, I'm going to put them into my 50g refugium that's plumbed into my main reef tank. I'm going to let them grow out a bit in there because right now, they're small enough to fit through the overflow teeth! More videos to come!

Thanks for sharing this video. Looks like those two are feasting!!! I hope there is continued success in raising Bandits. I would love to put a couple into my system at some point down the line.
 
It's my pleasure. Yeah, I'd definitely recommend these little guys to friends. I find them very hearty and much more easier than WC Bandits. To tell you guys the truth, when I first got them, I was totally worried.

Rufus has sent me a tiny WC Bandit before and it only lasted a few days and never ate anything. So when I received these two little guys, I was crazy worried I wouldn't be able to rear them like Karen. But to my pleasant surprise, it's a piece of cake!
 
Wayne, the black tang and feminius in the back of the video, are those from the tank prior to your house tenting or new ones?
 
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So much awesome in this picture. Here's to continued success Wayne!
 
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