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Well Kessil says their 360 we' and NE's will keep SPS happy. I can not say for the NE's but the WE's are missing some crucial element. Not sure what it is. BRS uses NE's. Maybe they know something we don't. I'm not sure. Depressing though. I see MH back in my future. I've sold huge 5gallon bucket sized colonies a bunch of times over the years. Kessils can't seem to grow a frag so I'm pretty annoyed.


I have had really good growth under 360WE lights. My SPS are all probably less than 10" from the surface. I don't believe there is any difference in the LED array, just the optics form a narrow angle for depth on the NE
 
I have not had any issue with SPS. The crucial elements with the lights are acclimation, PAR readings and appropriate subsequent coral placement.
 
Awesome! Just out of curiosity. I have had the Kessil's since June. All of my SPS that was doing well died in 6 months. I use the Spectral controller. My lights are 7" off the surface. What have you found to be the best ramp,intensity, and color combo. I am genuinely interested as I am trying to figure out how I can stuff MH's somehow. I'd rather grow SPS without having to change though. Input would be helpful.
 
I only have 1 A360WE. It is 5 inches off the surface. I have pretty good surface agitation with the Gyre at the top so that affects the light as well. I would probably start acclimation at 35% then work up to 65% over 10 days.

Settings:

10am 0 color/5 int
12pm 30/65
2pm 40/75
5pm 40/75
7pm 30/65
9:15pm 0/0
 
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All, what do you think of the following spectral scheduling:
Time Color Intensity
2:00 PM 0 0
3:48 PM 25 38
5:36 PM 50 76
7:24 PM 50 76
9:12 PM 25 38
11:00 PM 0 0

Light is mounted approx. 600 cm from sand bed.

Tank is housing LPSs and softies and zoanthids and 1x Kole and 2x Clowns and 1x Fathead Anthias and 1x BTA.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Actually, I just realized it doesn't go by 8 and I also realized that I haven't been going to 76% intensity .. so this are my new settings in my spectral:
Time Color Intensity
2:00 PM 0 0
3:48 PM 25 40
5:36 PM 50 50
7:24 PM 50 50
9:12 PM 25 40
11:00 PM 0 0

:wave:
 
Might want to reduce the color to 40 and maybe increase intensity. How high is the light off the water and how far below water line are corals. My inhabitants didn't like too much white light.
 
Might want to reduce the color to 40 and maybe increase intensity. How high is the light off the water and how far below water line are corals. My inhabitants didn't like too much white light.

Hi Eric, i'm taking a guesstimate here as am not home at the moment (aussie time).

The light is approx. 20 cm above the water surface.

The highest point inhabitant would be my orange tip BTA, which approx. 15 cm below the water surface.

There's also middle point inhabitants would be my orange rics and red goniopora which approx. 30 cm below the water surface.

Then, there's hammers, torch, zoanthids and lord acans which approx. 40 cm to 48 cm below the water surface (sand bed).

What's your thoughts?

I guess what i'm trying to imitate the nature as close as i can:

Time Color Intensity
2:00 PM 0 0 dawn
3:48 PM 25 40 sunrise
5:36 PM 50 50 noon
7:24 PM 50 50 noon
9:12 PM 25 40 sunset
11:00 PM 0 0 night
 
Did you ever get an answer or make your decision

Did you ever get an answer or make your decision

I emailed Kessil about number of light reccomendations for a 72/30/24 tank and they said 2 if mixed reef. 3 if sps dominant. Sound right? Would it be enough depth (front to back) if I used the stock mount and mounted them parallel to the tank? Wouldn't mounting them perpendicular to the tank make more sense?

Did you get an answer to your question? I'm in a similar situation with a 175 Gallon Bowfront 72" Long x 29" Tall x 18" wide at the edges bowing out to 24" at the center. Two top braces which may create shadow problems. This is a total rebuild for me so everything is up grabs. Tired of the MH/PC combo and replacing bulbs every 10 months at about $200, and a chiller running just about all the time trying to cool off the effects of the MH's. Need to cut some electric bill and make things a little more trouble free. I was thinking 2 AP700's running side to side, or 3 AP700's running front to back. Lots of money though, don't want to screw this up. When 10 years the other way.
 
I love my ap700's I have a 96x32x24h and have no problem with shadows. The lights are 7 inches off the water line. I am going to par the tank tonight to see where things are.
 
Hi Eric, i'm taking a guesstimate here as am not home at the moment (aussie time).

The light is approx. 20 cm above the water surface.

The highest point inhabitant would be my orange tip BTA, which approx. 15 cm below the water surface.

There's also middle point inhabitants would be my orange rics and red goniopora which approx. 30 cm below the water surface.

Then, there's hammers, torch, zoanthids and lord acans which approx. 40 cm to 48 cm below the water surface (sand bed).

What's your thoughts?

I guess what i'm trying to imitate the nature as close as i can:

Time Color Intensity
2:00 PM 0 0 dawn
3:48 PM 25 40 sunrise
5:36 PM 50 50 noon
7:24 PM 50 50 noon
9:12 PM 25 40 sunset
11:00 PM 0 0 night

Placement depth sounds fine. Try increasing intensity to 75% slowly and lowering color to 40. You should check with a PAR meter. I use a Seneye Reef for PAR and it seems fairly accurate.
 
Anyone have any growth pics with kessils?


I have a few. There's a bunch I've posted in my blog over the last few months
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I have a few. There's a bunch I've posted in my blog over the last few months
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What is your color and intensity ? I just had my 350's replaced with 360's so my old knob settings are not going to work. They operate so different with one setting for intensity and one for color vs one knob for each.

Plus I had 2-3 blues burnt out.

Currently running 50% color and 50% power and some SPS seems to be lightening up, not bleaching but am watching close. I started with 60% on each but backed it down to 50%. On my 350's was running blue maxed and white about 1/2 .

FYI I run the Narrow 360's and my tank is 39x24x22
 
Also, yes....the WE and NE is in the optics. It has nothing to do with the array as they are identical. WE(wide) and NE(narrow).

Every WE I have seen just lights up the whole room, as in spills out which is useless to corals.

With the NE's I get good coverage on a 24" wide tank, 22" deep and mounted about 7" off the water.
 
What is your color and intensity ? I just had my 350's replaced with 360's so my old knob settings are not going to work. They operate so different with one setting for intensity and one for color vs one knob for each.

Plus I had 2-3 blues burnt out.

Currently running 50% color and 50% power and some SPS seems to be lightening up, not bleaching but am watching close. I started with 60% on each but backed it down to 50%. On my 350's was running blue maxed and white about 1/2 .

FYI I run the Narrow 360's and my tank is 39x24x22

When I was running just the 360s here was my schedule:
12 HR cycle
8:55 10/80
10:00 15/85
13:00 15/90
15:00 20/95
18:00 10/85
21:00 0/0

Now that I'm running the AP plus the 360s for shadow control, I'm still playing around with settings, but all the growth pics were from just having the 360s under the schedule above.
 
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