Kessil Club

[sil40sx]

I'd like to know too. I've slowly made my way to 80% peak only. I noticed that putting my lights up higher (physically) really seemed to perk up my corals, but found that I needed to increase intensity to compensate.

^^^ we posted the same time

 

[sixpackgarage]

^^^ we posted the same time

lol, I see that. Great looking tank by the way. Love the simple look of the 360 lights over a super clean setup.

 

[sil40sx]

Thank you!

 

[TangingOut]

The 160we does have a max coverage area of 24x24, so yes, I think you're right. Since your tank is so shallow you should be ok if you can mount it high enough to get the max coverage

Thank you.

 

[Esage]

Tank is 48 x 20 x 18 75g, light mounted about 8" from water surface to get more coverage. I replaced 4 x 36" ATI bulbs with two A360WE the first week of March 2016.

I started with 40% intensity but corals closed up for 2 days, thats why I backed down to 30%, then the following morning almost corals opened up. Frogspawn, toadstool, Duncan, Zoanthids, open brain, mostly softies/LPS. Birdsnest, monti and scoly didnt get bothered about the upgrade.

Every week, I increased intensity to 5%. And last week, I decided to give it a 10% increased and everything looks good. I mean, all corals didnt have ill effect from a sudden 10% jump. Maybe I'll add another 10 next weekend and see how they respond.

As for color,. Ive been playing around between 20-40%, but decided to keep it a straight line of 20% all the time. It turns more blue anyways when the intensity ramps down, so its perfect. Speaking of, my light schedule is:

11am - 50
2pm - 80
4pm - 90
8pm - 50
11pm - 0

20% color all across the board.

Tank looks really good

 

[shred5]

Tank is 48 x 20 x 18 75g, light mounted about 8" from water surface to get more coverage. I replaced 4 x 36" ATI bulbs with two A360WE the first week of March 2016.

I started with 40% intensity but corals closed up for 2 days, thats why I backed down to 30%, then the following morning almost corals opened up. Frogspawn, toadstool, Duncan, Zoanthids, open brain, mostly softies/LPS. Birdsnest, monti and scoly didnt get bothered about the upgrade.

Every week, I increased intensity to 5%. And last week, I decided to give it a 10% increased and everything looks good. I mean, all corals didnt have ill effect from a sudden 10% jump. Maybe I'll add another 10 next weekend and see how they respond.

As for color,. Ive been playing around between 20-40%, but decided to keep it a straight line of 20% all the time. It turns more blue anyways when the intensity ramps down, so its perfect. Speaking of, my light schedule is:

11am - 50
2pm - 80
4pm - 90
8pm - 50
11pm - 0

20% color all across the board.

You start out at 50 percent?
Is that because there is already a lot of light in the room?

 

[d0ughb0y]

I have a question and can't seem to find the answer.
the kessil unit has 2 knobs, one for color and one for intensity.
what exactly does each one control.
My understanding is color is white-blue control, and intensity is brightness.
With 0-10v control, what exactly does that control?
My understanding is it only controls the intensity.
Since the wireless controller only connects to the unit using 0-10v, does that mean you can control the intensity only? and the controller only controls the ramp up/down of intensity at different times of the day but not the white-blue color mix?

If the 0-10v can control both color and intensity, I'm curious as to how this is done. Like say if you connect using apex or other 0-10v controllers, it would be able to control only intensity no?

also, how is the 0-10v control of intensity? can you say run 1%? or does the light completely shut down at a higher %?

thanks in advance.

 

[Turbosreef]

It's two channel one is intensity one is color, I use my Apex for both.

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[Turbosreef]

One is for the control hookup and one is to daisy chain the other lights

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[d0ughb0y]

thanks turbosreef. I still don't follow.

One is labeled 0-10v input and one is labeled 0-10v output. So you use it to daisy chain multiple lights. But it is still one channel. or do you mean if you do not daisy chain the second one is used as 0-10v input for controlling color?

Is there another 0-10v input for controlling color? I don't see it in any of the product pictures on kessil website.

 

[shred5]

One is for the control hookup and one is to daisy chain the other lights

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There are two 0-10v inputs but each is two channel if you have a full apex if not you need the vdm unit.
First is V1 and v2 and the second is v3 and v4.

https://www.neptunesystems.com/led-dimming-module/

 

[d0ughb0y]

still do not follow.

from this picture, which 0-10v is for controlling color and which is for intensity? or can you only really control intensity and not color?

I follow that apex has 4 0-10v lines. but can you use 2 on one kessil unit to control both intensity and color?

thanks.

 

[shred5]

still do not follow.

from this picture, which 0-10v is for controlling color and which is for intensity? or can you only really control intensity and not color?

I follow that apex has 4 0-10v lines. but can you use 2 on one kessil unit to control both intensity and color?

thanks.

I am going to say one is input and one is out put.
The input is dual channel and the output is dual channel, they would have to be.

The apex has 4 channels but there are only two outputs. Each output is dual channel and is a single connection. So one apex output has two channels, one for intensity and one for color on a single cable.

So on the light the input is dual channel (one cable) The next is the output which goes to the next light.

Here is the apex guide for Kessil:
https://www.neptunesystems.com/getstarted/vdm/a360/

 

[d0ughb0y]

ok, now I get it. They use stereo jacks!

Next questions nobody answered yet, can you actually control intensity down to 1%? or does the light shut down completely at higher than 1% ?

and is color control for controlling white-blue mix only? so 50% means equal white/blue, 0% is all white and 100% is all blue?

thanks

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I just read the manual and color controls from sky blue to ocean blue to actinic blue. so this is just for controlling the amount of blue if I understand this correctly.

update again. I just read the apex guide, and it says color controls white/blue. So which one is correct? the kessil manual or apex guide?

this is what apex guide says
0% = 100% Blue/0% White
50% = 50%Blue/50% White
100% = 0% Blue/ 100% White

 

[sil40sx]

Tank looks really good

Thanks!

You start out at 50 percent?
Is that because there is already a lot of light in the room?

Yes, the ambient light is already bright enough not to shock the corals when LED is lit.

 

[dougchambers]

Minimum intensity is 15% to get the Kessils to turn on with the Apex. I have four 360's daisy-chained and find that I have to set my bottom threshold at 17% intensity to get all four to fire at the same time. Color is full 0-100%.

 

[sil40sx]

this is what apex guide says
0% = 100% Blue/0% White
50% = 50%Blue/50% White
100% = 0% Blue/ 100% White

I dont have APEX, but on my Kessil Controller its lower the % number the more blue., higher the % number more white.

 

[shred5]

Minimum intensity is 15% to get the Kessils to turn on with the Apex. I have four 360's daisy-chained and find that I have to set my bottom threshold at 17% intensity to get all four to fire at the same time. Color is full 0-100%.

Is this the same for the Kessil controller or just Apex?

 

[sil40sx]

Is this the same for the Kessil controller or just Apex?

5% on kessil controller.

But on actual ramp up and down, they turn on at 1%, and off at 0%

 

[shred5]

This is what it says on Kessil site:The A360 lights are not capable of dimming down past 13%, thus even with the controller, the light will shut off at that intensity.