Krakatoa Zoa?

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Lord of the Forrest, interesting name Mark. cool animal there.

They are very cool indeed. I bought a red throat one a year ago and man are they intelligent and grow fast. My girl who is really scared of boas and pythons loves Rango (his name). Interestingly enough they have a wide diet and whenever I cook salmon, I always save some meat and skin for my blue spot jawfish and the indigo loves the skin. It goes nuts when I feed him chicks. As I said before, I am probably never going to retire haha.
 
I can get a CAR for what they are selling 2 polyps for :deadhorse1:

This rediculous, and I feel it really hurts the hobby.

Being in the homeland state of the indigo, a car would be the only choice if between the indigo and a vehicle. On another note, lets wait a few years and if those polyps spread like they do space monsters or "pink n golds" then they will be very affordable later on.
 
1k for two polyps in my financial situation is craziness however I think it is all relative. My hope is that the guy that spends that much doesn't screw it up and melt the darn polyps. We have a few people in my area, along with myself, that like to buy the higher end polyps, grow them some and then sell for deeply discounted prices till we get our initial outlay back. After that I end up sharing the polyps with friends.

Thats pretty much what I did. :beer:
 
I'll do what folks do with luxury cars.... Let the 1st sucker get hit with the MSRP, taxes, luxury tax, gas guzzler tax, then when they sell with only a couple years on it, I get it for 1/2 the price.
 
How is the hobby suffering from these polyps going for so much money?

It artificially drives the price up for all corals. 5 years ago, you could buy a pretty large (around the size of your palm) colony of pretty much ANY zoanthid for 50-75 bucks. This silly name limited edition ultra ultra rare crap has killed us in prices. Kudos for the guys who sell them for being good at marketing. but for the rest of us. it sucks.
 
Keep in mind that prices go both way. Do you believe Indonesian do not know the price now? The whole world is connected and information is almost instantly known at the other end.
first colony may get away with it, they wont miss the chance when second wave going out. Ask yourself if you will still sell $1 to someone who can sell for $500?
 
It artificially drives the price up for all corals. 5 years ago, you could buy a pretty large (around the size of your palm) colony of pretty much ANY zoanthid for 50-75 bucks. This silly name limited edition ultra ultra rare crap has killed us in prices. Kudos for the guys who sell them for being good at marketing. but for the rest of us. it sucks.
But you aren't stating how it is hurting the industry just how it hurts you and anyone unwilling or incapable of paying the high retail price. The industry on the other hand seems to be moving along just fine. If you were in Melbourne last Saturday you would have seen Joshporksandwich booth and he had all high end stuff. Pictures of his tank are in this forum and you can peruse at your delight. No one here will say he is messing with cheap polyps. Well he started selling at $20. He even sold bowsers (from what I was told) at $70/polyp. That is a great price considering other online outlets want $200/polyp. Needless to say his booth was packed.

To be honest, considering the hype it brings it seems to not be affecting the hobby negatively at all.
 
But you aren't stating how it is hurting the industry just how it hurts you and anyone unwilling or incapable of paying the high retail price. The industry on the other hand seems to be moving along just fine. If you were in Melbourne last Saturday you would have seen Joshporksandwich booth and he had all high end stuff. Pictures of his tank are in this forum and you can peruse at your delight. No one here will say he is messing with cheap polyps. Well he started selling at $20. He even sold bowsers (from what I was told) at $70/polyp. That is a great price considering other online outlets want $200/polyp. Needless to say his booth was packed.

To be honest, considering the hype it brings it seems to not be affecting the hobby negatively at all.

In fact, in my opinion, because you can afford the price tag, you get much more varieties than the rest of the world. This has been a step up for USA. Go to Euro, Asia, you wont be able to find all these exotic. Just need to pay to keep in the trend.
 
But you aren't stating how it is hurting the industry just how it hurts you and anyone unwilling or incapable of paying the high retail price. The industry on the other hand seems to be moving along just fine. If you were in Melbourne last Saturday you would have seen Joshporksandwich booth and he had all high end stuff. Pictures of his tank are in this forum and you can peruse at your delight. No one here will say he is messing with cheap polyps. Well he started selling at $20. He even sold bowsers (from what I was told) at $70/polyp. That is a great price considering other online outlets want $200/polyp. Needless to say his booth was packed.

To be honest, considering the hype it brings it seems to not be affecting the hobby negatively at all.

I said it hurts the hobby, not the industry. You dont think its a little crazy that he can sell a single polyp for 70 bucks? something that isnt even rare? (or at least no more rare then any other random color morph of a polyp) :debi:
 
1k for two polyps in my financial situation is craziness however I think it is all relative. My hope is that the guy that spends that much doesn't screw it up and melt the darn polyps. We have a few people in my area, along with myself, that like to buy the higher end polyps, grow them some and then sell for deeply discounted prices till we get our initial outlay back. After that I end up sharing the polyps with friends.

I do the same.

I've been selling frags of "yellow brick road" zoanthids for $25 (10+ polyps) compared to the price or $33pp on some websites....

>jason
 
I said it hurts the hobby, not the industry. You dont think its a little crazy that he can sell a single polyp for 70 bucks? something that isnt even rare? (or at least no more rare then any other random color morph of a polyp) :debi:
I think it is nice that he is selling his for cheaper than the going rate.
 
They must have really wanted that zoa. As Charles said, hope it doesn't melt on him/her.
 
But you aren't stating how it is hurting the industry just how it hurts you and anyone unwilling or incapable of paying the high retail price. The industry on the other hand seems to be moving along just fine.

To be honest, considering the hype it brings it seems to not be affecting the hobby negatively at all.

It is massively affecting the industry. The collection stations also have this fancy internet thing we're on, and they've started noticing that corals they sell for $10 out of their station is ending up at $5,000 when someone chops it up at $300 a frag. So they've started raising their prices, dramatically, on a lot of corals that used to be cheaper.

What this is doing is making it harder for the LFS that really prop up this hobby to be able to sell colonies, or get decent corals at what used to be a fair price. Things are moving along really quickly now to where a nice chalice is going to cost $500+ coming out of the collection station, which with DOA's on some and other fees will cost about $900+ landed for wholesalers. Then $1500 for retailers, and everyone will be forced to adopt the overpriced scammer business model just to stay in business.

Basically, we are all collectively going to be forced to pay much higher prices in the future because of the people who are actually dumb enough to pay those inflated prices today.
 
It is massively affecting the industry. The collection stations also have this fancy internet thing we're on, and they've started noticing that corals they sell for $10 out of their station is ending up at $5,000 when someone chops it up at $300 a frag. So they've started raising their prices, dramatically, on a lot of corals that used to be cheaper.

What this is doing is making it harder for the LFS that really prop up this hobby to be able to sell colonies, or get decent corals at what used to be a fair price. Things are moving along really quickly now to where a nice chalice is going to cost $500+ coming out of the collection station, which with DOA's on some and other fees will cost about $900+ landed for wholesalers. Then $1500 for retailers, and everyone will be forced to adopt the overpriced scammer business model just to stay in business.

Basically, we are all collectively going to be forced to pay much higher prices in the future because of the people who are actually dumb enough to pay those inflated prices today.

And...

... there are many here that are still continuing to defend this type of ridiculous business strategy with their "supply and demand" flags. They support the flag and do pay for it. Snow ball!!!

Chop-chop bu$ine$$$!

So sad...

Grandis.
 
One more thing:

The cartoon names are a great deal part of the whole thing and everyone keep learning the language of the busine$$$$$$$.
Truth spoken!
Sorry, I am still disgusted with all this, even if we all know that it is gone far enough and :deadhorse:

Grandis.
 
... there are many here that are still continuing to defend this type of ridiculous business strategy with their "supply and demand" flags.

Yup, I love the hobbyist armchair economists who can't tell the difference between "supply and demand" and "fabricated market bubble."
 
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