Landlords Log - Breeding Tomato Clowns
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rEd86
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I thought you might have made them out of acrylic yourself. Where did you get the tanks?
Yea, that picture doesn't give much detail of the plumbing INSIDE the tank. With the water level where it is, I'm guessing you have an elbow with some type of wider opening for flow. Did you cut teeth in the top of the elbow or is the flow slow enough that you don't need to worry about fish going over the edge? (or did you thread a strainer to the elbow?)
The tubing is small enough where I'd worry that the fish would stop up the overflow if there wasn't something there to stop them from entering it. (no fast rides to the sump for those little guys)
I cut some acrylic over the weekend for a little grow-out tank I plan on building if my clown fish is successful in hatching a clutch of eggs in the upcoming months. I will raise the fry in it until they reach a point where I can transfer them to a similar setup as yours. (I figured I didn't need to build an overflow/return system until I was successful in getting them past meta...)
--Ed
Yea, that picture doesn't give much detail of the plumbing INSIDE the tank. With the water level where it is, I'm guessing you have an elbow with some type of wider opening for flow. Did you cut teeth in the top of the elbow or is the flow slow enough that you don't need to worry about fish going over the edge? (or did you thread a strainer to the elbow?)
The tubing is small enough where I'd worry that the fish would stop up the overflow if there wasn't something there to stop them from entering it. (no fast rides to the sump for those little guys)
I cut some acrylic over the weekend for a little grow-out tank I plan on building if my clown fish is successful in hatching a clutch of eggs in the upcoming months. I will raise the fry in it until they reach a point where I can transfer them to a similar setup as yours. (I figured I didn't need to build an overflow/return system until I was successful in getting them past meta...)
--Ed
landlord
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Today is the day. Offloading two juveniles to my boss and another 2 to a co-worker.
Freebies!
They have been completely weined onto NLS pellets. If they make it for a week or two the remaining 30 from batch II are off to the pet store
I have mixed feelings about this, I am happy to get rid of them, for sure :lol: but at the same time feeling a bit concerned for their future.
Kind of funny how that works!
Kurt
Freebies!
They have been completely weined onto NLS pellets. If they make it for a week or two the remaining 30 from batch II are off to the pet store
I have mixed feelings about this, I am happy to get rid of them, for sure :lol: but at the same time feeling a bit concerned for their future.
Kind of funny how that works!
Kurt
rEd86
Premium Member
:dance:
Congrats on making it to this point Kurt! I know how you feel about what happens to them after leaving your loving care. Did you already mention what LFS is getting them?
PM me if you've got time next week for me to drop by and check out your new setup.
BTW: I thought my clown was going to lay another batch of eggs earlier in the week but I might have thrown her off. She was cleaning the overflow return again and appeared to be getting ready to do her thing. When she wondered away for a minute I stuck my hand it and twisted the jet so that the area she was cleaning was facing the web camera. I don't think she liked that since I never saw any activity after that. (although she might have done something later that night after I left, but there was no evidence of it in the morning) Since then I have placed a 4" tile in the corner where the two hang out when the lights are off that's positioned so if she lays eggs on the top half, they are in view of the camera. I'll keep you posted as to her progress and if she finds the new tile of interest.
Later!
--Ed
Congrats on making it to this point Kurt! I know how you feel about what happens to them after leaving your loving care. Did you already mention what LFS is getting them?
PM me if you've got time next week for me to drop by and check out your new setup.
BTW: I thought my clown was going to lay another batch of eggs earlier in the week but I might have thrown her off. She was cleaning the overflow return again and appeared to be getting ready to do her thing. When she wondered away for a minute I stuck my hand it and twisted the jet so that the area she was cleaning was facing the web camera. I don't think she liked that since I never saw any activity after that. (although she might have done something later that night after I left, but there was no evidence of it in the morning) Since then I have placed a 4" tile in the corner where the two hang out when the lights are off that's positioned so if she lays eggs on the top half, they are in view of the camera. I'll keep you posted as to her progress and if she finds the new tile of interest.
Later!
--Ed
landlord
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Thanks Ed.
I did not mention the LFS's, don't want to jinx anything as of yet. I'll PM ya when (and if) the transactions finalize.
I also gotta check my schedule for the visit. You know how life can get in the way School starting soon for my 9 yr old, college for the girls in the basement, etc... I'll let you know. On a sad note the SPS tank won't look as good for your next visit. I have been losing corals to RTN and STN about 2 a months for the last couple of months. Not sure why, probably bad salt. Fortuneately none of the super high end coral have been affected but losing 10 colonies no matter what type really blows. All my encrusting montis except my sunset are grey colored. Some people have suggested a choride ion imbalance, others potassium issues. I really have no clue.
I'll keep you in the loop.
Kurt
I did not mention the LFS's, don't want to jinx anything as of yet. I'll PM ya when (and if) the transactions finalize.
I also gotta check my schedule for the visit. You know how life can get in the way
School starting soon for my 9 yr old, college for the girls in the basement, etc... I'll let you know. On a sad note the SPS tank won't look as good for your next visit. I have been losing corals to RTN and STN about 2 a months for the last couple of months. Not sure why, probably bad salt. Fortuneately none of the super high end coral have been affected but losing 10 colonies no matter what type really blows. All my encrusting montis except my sunset are grey colored. Some people have suggested a choride ion imbalance, others potassium issues. I really have no clue.I'll keep you in the loop.
Kurt
landlord
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Well the deal went down, and to my surprise my boss made it a trade and I got 2 no longer used pumps for 2 tomato babies. One was a Mag 12 and the other was a Mag 18 (he used to have a pond in the backyard)
I believe I got the better end if this deal but as it stands we are both all smiles.
During acclimation the babies were immediately attacked by a blue damsel. That is when the Tomato babies dropped the A-Bomb on that damsel. Coming from a tank full of angry tomatos they were not about to let some damsel show them what was up. The two 1 inch babies ganged up on the damsel and sent him packing back to his little piece of the reef. They even held their own against one of the largest foxfaces I have ever seen. truly amazing!
It was a good day indeed
Kurt
I believe I got the better end if this deal but as it stands we are both all smiles.
During acclimation the babies were immediately attacked by a blue damsel. That is when the Tomato babies dropped the A-Bomb on that damsel. Coming from a tank full of angry tomatos they were not about to let some damsel show them what was up. The two 1 inch babies ganged up on the damsel and sent him packing back to his little piece of the reef. They even held their own against one of the largest foxfaces I have ever seen. truly amazing!
It was a good day indeed
Kurt
landlord
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Update - OK so I gave 2 1 inch tomato clowns to a co-worker yesterday. I have never personally seen this guys tank but I know he has a couple chromis and a tobacco basslet. What I didn't know is that the tobacco basslet is 5 INCHES LONG.
:lol:
He said after acclimation and release into the tank it was immediately consumed by the basslet.
I joking told him that if he wants a return he'll need to put the fish in a bag of salt and mail it to me. Digested fish will not suffice!
Live and Learn - We'll wait till they get another 1/4 to 1/2 in. before he tries again.
Kurt
:lol:
He said after acclimation and release into the tank it was immediately consumed by the basslet.
I joking told him that if he wants a return he'll need to put the fish in a bag of salt and mail it to me.
Digested fish will not suffice!Live and Learn - We'll wait till they get another 1/4 to 1/2 in. before he tries again.
Kurt
landlord
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Since I was taking pictures in the breeding room.... Here are some pictures at 9 months.
The last picture really shows the need to separate them for size. There are some nine month old fish in this tank that are less than 1/2 inch. Whereas the ones that I traded to the local LFS are massive almost 2 inches long.
Kurt
The last picture really shows the need to separate them for size. There are some nine month old fish in this tank that are less than 1/2 inch. Whereas the ones that I traded to the local LFS are massive almost 2 inches long.
Kurt
Bud's Reef
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Kurt, I'm glad you posted this. I had the same experience with the Gold-striped Maroons. At five months they ranged from about 1" to 1/4". I sold all the largest ones and now at seven months most of the smaller ones are up to 1". I've wondered what made such a difference in size since I would watch when I feed them and even the smaller ones seemed to get their fill without having to fight for food. I'm sure the competition for food figures into it but there must be a genetic component as well.
landlord
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Could be genetic, I'm by no means an expert. When I feed this particular tank (Otohime C2) I can see that the larger more agressive feeders seem to be taking the large chunks and the little guys are busy scraping at the left over dust size particles. There are only about 5 big one left in this tank I just need to sit down and catch them to put them over into the larger bodied tank. Aside from genetics, you can still clearly see the second stripe on these guys. Most of them lost that stripe by around 3/4 of an inch, I'm still thinking it's a food / space issue retarding growth.
We need more opinions on this topic for sure.
Thanks Bud -- Kurt
We need more opinions on this topic for sure.
Thanks Bud -- Kurt
ThunderTang
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Those are Some Nice lookin Clowns,Good Luck with them
landlord
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Cheers Dowsey! Thanks for the good words.
landlord
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Yeah! I was able to get rid of another twenty of these guys last night! Traded them at the LFS for a really fat and healthy looking fairy wrasse, Cirrhilabrus flavidorsalis to be specific. Just a really good looking fish IMO.
I think I am down to about 75 tomatos left.
WooHoo!
Kurt
I think I am down to about 75 tomatos left.
WooHoo!
Kurt
