yeap ordered the same product from the same place- my tablets also have 23.6 mg in each one. I also saw like a starch thing going on to there were tons of tiny white bubbles on the rocks after the first 2 hours- im guessing the bacteria was eating it and making tons of bubbles. did kill alot of my brittlestars but my pods were still swimming and alive.
Levamisole In-Tank Treatment for AEFW
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Containing 46.8 gm of levamisole hydrochloride activity per 52 gm packet
so this is saying it has 46.8 gram of levamsiole. this would treat 2700 gallons???
so this is saying it has 46.8 gram of levamsiole. this would treat 2700 gallons???
For my 90 gallon I have about 75 gal of actual water. I came up with the following dosage based on the PROHIBIT Pkg.
46.8 grams total levamisole in pack (52g)
46.8/52 = .9
5 grams/ per 300 gallon x 75 gal water = 1.25 gram of levamisole
1.25/.9 = 1.38 grams
Bax
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Well that is certainly not the best news. I'd say dont give up. Let's refine the method.
I just dosed my qt tank with 6 grams to see what may happen. I am pretty sure that a lot of my new arrivals have came in with FW's. So I am going to assume they are in my qt tank.
James that has to be disheartening but I still think you guys are on to something.
I just dosed my qt tank with 6 grams to see what may happen. I am pretty sure that a lot of my new arrivals have came in with FW's. So I am going to assume they are in my qt tank.
James that has to be disheartening but I still think you guys are on to something.
Atomikk
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Well I'm sorry to say that after dipping corals today...I still have AEFWI'm not sure what exactly went wrong, at this point Im not sure what I'm going to do, maybe just dip every 3 days until they are gone, whatever dies, dies.
Doesn't matter. Keep going.
I can bring news to some that I had observed my millepora actually growing for the first time in a year. I can see the base coloring up and showing new growth. Plus a big sign for me is the fact that polyps are stretched out. Something I haven't seen before.
Now be mindful that I used the PROHIBIT product and not the Vermisol. That may be the trick. I think there might be two specific ways to treat your tanks using these two dewormers. I think we have found the trick with the Prohibit product. Now lets see what works with the Vermisol.
Yesterday I completed round 2 inside my display, and everything looks great.
yeah i think it could possibly be prohibit works better : / somehow. I noticed it killed my brittle stars, completly messed up my snails that live in the sand. i didnt see any flatworms fal off the coral and even when maxijeted the flatworms never died they just kept going .
rtbm
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John do you mean this happened using the prohibit or the vermisol?
After 2 hours or so I see quite a few stars, but pods are alive. acro crabs are totally unaffected.
Atomikk. I Like your first comment. I agree. keep going man. If this stuff kille aefws then we have a start.
Bax
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Well I'm sorry to say that after dipping corals today...I still have AEFW
James
Are you seeing full grown adults or small to medium FWs?
Did you get through 4 treatments yet?
I'm still nervous about rebound from eggs that we don't see and AEFWs that are hiding deep in crevises where the leathal dose can't reach. It maybe that we will have to repeat the treatment after givig the system a few weeks to stabilize. I;ve seen this happen with Interceptor when treating for Red Bugs.
There are theories that the red bugs die but are ladened with eggs that hatck from the adult? Could this happen with the AEFWs? I don't know enough about these tiny pest to say. But I've been looking at this like a bad infection. We've found an antibiotic that is effective against the infection now it is a matter of dosage and treatment regimen.
If you have a forth treatment to go, push your dose to 6 grams/300 gallons. Remeber my initial experience, I unintentionally dosed at fresh water leves which are 15 grams to 300 gallons. While I lost some delicate & severly AEFW damaged corals, most survived, a moved many inverts to QT, and the dish were fine. My point is there is room to increase the dosage in a specific situation. I would not tell anyone to start out any higher than the 5 grams/300 g until you see how your system reacts.
rtbm
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I think I am going to scrap the foys and try the prohibit.
It's funny though. My qt set really is designed for exactly what it's doing. Holding all new arrivals till they are clean. But I still cant stand the thought of FW's in there even.
I want the comfort of knowing I can just dose my qt regularly and be free of them.
I am going to hold off on another treatment until I get the prohibit. It seems that this product is a better way to go.
Doing the math I believe I'll need about a half gram for about 28 gallons total.
It's funny though. My qt set really is designed for exactly what it's doing. Holding all new arrivals till they are clean. But I still cant stand the thought of FW's in there even.
I want the comfort of knowing I can just dose my qt regularly and be free of them.
I am going to hold off on another treatment until I get the prohibit. It seems that this product is a better way to go.
Doing the math I believe I'll need about a half gram for about 28 gallons total.
Bax
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James
From what I've observed, they grow to adult size very quickly. The likelyhood is thatsmall to medium sized AEFWs have hached since treatment started. I don't think they lay eggs until they are that large adult worm dip what you see and dose at 6 grams/300 g for a 5th treatment, then give the system a break and observe 7 dip. It could very well be the Vermisol is just not potent enough to do the job?
prop-frags
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I have found this thread to be fascinating. I too experienced first hand the devastation this parasite can have in our systems several years back.
I am wondering if 3 weeks of treatment is really enough as the embryonic cycle of this pest is approx 21 days. It would seem necessary to continue the protocol longer to ensure the egg cycle is halted and all flatworms are killed.
I found the information on the egg cycle in a report that was published in the journal Coral Reefs. If anyone is interested, you can see an excerpt of that report here.
I am wondering if 3 weeks of treatment is really enough as the embryonic cycle of this pest is approx 21 days. It would seem necessary to continue the protocol longer to ensure the egg cycle is halted and all flatworms are killed.
I found the information on the egg cycle in a report that was published in the journal Coral Reefs. If anyone is interested, you can see an excerpt of that report here.
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preventive maintenance like red bugs hahahaha
Bax
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prop-frags
I think you may be correct and that's why I was recomending treatment to 4 events, but the proper duration may be 5 or 6 weekly treatments. Only experimentation like this will tell.
Atomikk
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I am also thinking of upping the 4-5 hrs of contact time with Levamisol to 8 hrs. Today I turned over a sps frag inside my QT and found more eggs. Which means that some flatworms survived the second treatment. I am pretty sure that these worms grow to adulthood quite quickly.
I am going to check random colonies in my display to see if there are any eggs left after the second treatment. Mind you that my display consists of many flatworm eating wrasses (Melanurus, Chrysus, and Iridis), and my QT doesn't. That is my benefit when these suckers are weak and are falling off of the coral. I also think that basting is almost necessary after a few hours in, as I am sure they are stunned, and ready to be disengaged from the coral.
I am going to check random colonies in my display to see if there are any eggs left after the second treatment. Mind you that my display consists of many flatworm eating wrasses (Melanurus, Chrysus, and Iridis), and my QT doesn't. That is my benefit when these suckers are weak and are falling off of the coral. I also think that basting is almost necessary after a few hours in, as I am sure they are stunned, and ready to be disengaged from the coral.
joeyvu
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I just recieved my PROHIBIT today and will dose them tonight...I will tell if there is different between Vermisol and PROHIBIT...
Here is my calculation
46.8/52 = 0.9
5x120g/300g = 2gram
need 2x 52/46.8 = 2.22gram of PROHIBIT
Thank you
James, sorry to hear that you still have them...We have to find some way to kill them....Other's suggestions might be worth another try....
Here is my calculation
46.8/52 = 0.9
5x120g/300g = 2gram
need 2x 52/46.8 = 2.22gram of PROHIBIT
Thank you
James, sorry to hear that you still have them...We have to find some way to kill them....Other's suggestions might be worth another try....
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