Lights... hit me...
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ComforablyNumb
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Yes, me too apparently.
I hope thats the last instance of the name-calling nonsense we see...in this thread. I've pretty well had enough of the thread anyway..didn't learn a thing. altho it was fun and quite entertaining I must say.
Cheers to all who spoke..whether you thought you were right or wrong. Its not settled science by any means..leds continue to advance in both popularity and innovation. mH/led/t5 all work well for corals. What you own is the best, most effective and cheapest.
Frankencoral: It'll be like all those designer-named zoa's everyone pays 5 times as much for lol
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Potatohead
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I was pretty darn certain he was in Australia, I even posted it this morning but then edited that post (post 182) shortly afterwards because I went back to double check and he didn't have a location listed and then I thought maybe I confused him with Punchanello.
I kill me. I'm trying not to troll but this is getting funny.ComforablyNumb
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So why is MAP still legal in the US? (without googling it pls..like thats going to happen)
Its a debate in marketing everywhere, so you should know the answer off the top of your head without looking.
ComforablyNumb
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Apple chinese made iPhones go for a premium. To each his own on that topic. Once again, blanket statements do not apply. My local retailer uses kessil/g4 knockoffs, I asked and he had no complaints.
Potatohead
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I'm not quite sure why you think it should be illegal. Some brands do not want a race to the bottom with their stuff, Apple probably being the prime example.
Everything is made in China, perhaps assembled in its home country. This doesn't negate my statement that reefers want the name brand premium gear. No one says, oh gee I wish I could get a Jebao. They want AI, Ecotech, Maxspect, ATI.
ComforablyNumb
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And dont bother answer my MAP question..with google its moot anyway.
Bye all.
Bye all.
ComforablyNumb
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I dont care what you say, many folks think the chinese boxes are a better value. Retailers too. Anyway..lets this fade out, why dont we?
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Apple products might be made in China, to be honest I don't know. But let's not kid ourselves that they are junk. To me the engineering and sourcing of quality parts are where it counts. I've owned Chinese pumps and they were lucky to last 2-3 yrs, whereas my German pumps are going on 8-10 yrs and look brand new. In most cases, you get what you pay for.
ComforablyNumb
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Gave yourself away. The main reason its legality is often questioned is it anti-consumer and it enables manufacturers to maintain a higher than normal advertised price in the market.
ComforablyNumb
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The reason I know is in Canada we have a law called the Combines Act and Levi's Canada was charged twice with violating it. ie: exerting our influence over supply of our product to retailers who would discount the price at retail, to the detriment of the brand. I used to enforce it. We lost the case on appeal.
Some retailer starting discounting, we would somehow lose their restock orders.
And the credit dept would suddenly reduce credit lines to the offending retailer and the local rep would stop calling on them. It was funny how that worked. *wink
And I know because I actually was in marketing at a national level.
edit: interesting sidenote..we were sued 3 times by WalWart for refusing to sell to them. For basically the same reason..bad for brand image and discounting every day. We won the first two times...but Levi's can now be found at walmart, so guess who lost the third? The 3rd case happened after I left. These things drag on for yrs. Lawyers made a fortune.
Some retailer starting discounting, we would somehow lose their restock orders.
And the credit dept would suddenly reduce credit lines to the offending retailer and the local rep would stop calling on them. It was funny how that worked. *wink
And I know because I actually was in marketing at a national level.
edit: interesting sidenote..we were sued 3 times by WalWart for refusing to sell to them. For basically the same reason..bad for brand image and discounting every day. We won the first two times...but Levi's can now be found at walmart, so guess who lost the third? The 3rd case happened after I left. These things drag on for yrs. Lawyers made a fortune.
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I don't think anyone needed Google to know why they set a min price.
Have we agreed that you will forever pay at least $800 for a Radion Pro?
Chinese boxes will grow coral, I owned them. But they wont last the distance, they don't blend light very well and you get bugger all warranty.
Have we agreed that you will forever pay at least $800 for a Radion Pro?
Chinese boxes will grow coral, I owned them. But they wont last the distance, they don't blend light very well and you get bugger all warranty.
Potatohead
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So I'm a liar now? You are an interesting cat. My territory does does not involve the US so I do not concern myself with their laws.
You can call it a monopoly or price fixing if you want, but that is not true. It is not the only option a customer has. If EcoTech has MAP and you don't like it, there are twenty other options for lights or powerheads. It is also minimum advertised price, the retailer can sell for whatever price they want as long as they don't advertise that. I can assure you if you need six G4 Pros you can pay less than $799 each. You know that.
A race to the bottom is what leads to companies like Levi's sending all their manufacturing overseas. So Levi's starts paying half for their manufacturing and inventory, how much of that is passed to the consumer? You guessed it - Nothing.
Damn, I'm not a reefer.I always wanted to be a reefer.
Like the one Cheech had...
You don't want for the nice stuff Fred?
Potatohead
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And you wonder why map exists :hmm4:
ComforablyNumb
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Potatohead the marketing guy didn't know. It was anti-consumer and anyone involved in marketing would know that right off the top of his head. He clearly did not. Maybe he should have googled. So you knew?? Ya right
