Showdizzle
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progression photos are the bees knees. awesome tank
Little Rimless Radium Tank - 2 years of progress
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biggles
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Those top downs you posted last are just disgusting mate lol........ just awesome stuff :thumbsup:
About that weird alk draw thing you have going on. I ran into the same thing after 18 months with very little water changes on a previous tank and after doing a few biggish water changes everything settled back down so you might be right in thinking something is out of whack in your water chemistry. Water changes certainly won't hurt even if they don't sort out the constant rise in alk draw. Everything might just be booming ahead making it hard to keep up as you said so that's highly likely too considering the colorful smiles all your SPS are sporting.
I'm in rainy Melbourne Ryan.
Always look forward to any updates on your system mate, easily one of the prettiest SPS displays on RC. :thumbsup:
About that weird alk draw thing you have going on. I ran into the same thing after 18 months with very little water changes on a previous tank and after doing a few biggish water changes everything settled back down so you might be right in thinking something is out of whack in your water chemistry. Water changes certainly won't hurt even if they don't sort out the constant rise in alk draw. Everything might just be booming ahead making it hard to keep up as you said so that's highly likely too considering the colorful smiles all your SPS are sporting.
I'm in rainy Melbourne Ryan.
Always look forward to any updates on your system mate, easily one of the prettiest SPS displays on RC. :thumbsup:
MammothReefer
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Thanks guys for the compliments!!
Biggles, I think the biggest issue with my alk is just the water volume. I've got such a small average draw .05dkh a day. If doubled my volume that would cut down to .025 which could easily be corrected by staying on top of my water changes. I used to do them weekly and things were good but it was a lot of work then I switched to every other week and things were still good so I tried to cut it down to monthly and for the most part it worked but I think I just need to go back to every other week. That seemed to be the happy medium for my tank. Maybe with more volume I can stay at monthly but not with the current demand vs water.
I finally broke down this past week and finished welding my frag tank stand. I'm water testing the tank right now and mixing up a new batch of salt, and I need to pick up some more paint to finish sealing the board I'm going to use to mount my cables to, hopefully I'll be able to get it going this week which will increase my water volume by 50%.
(sorry for the bad cell phone pic)
Biggles, I think the biggest issue with my alk is just the water volume. I've got such a small average draw .05dkh a day. If doubled my volume that would cut down to .025 which could easily be corrected by staying on top of my water changes. I used to do them weekly and things were good but it was a lot of work then I switched to every other week and things were still good so I tried to cut it down to monthly and for the most part it worked but I think I just need to go back to every other week. That seemed to be the happy medium for my tank. Maybe with more volume I can stay at monthly but not with the current demand vs water.
I finally broke down this past week and finished welding my frag tank stand. I'm water testing the tank right now and mixing up a new batch of salt, and I need to pick up some more paint to finish sealing the board I'm going to use to mount my cables to, hopefully I'll be able to get it going this week which will increase my water volume by 50%.
(sorry for the bad cell phone pic)
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copps
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Yeah, the original miyagi will often display green like that...
What was it labeled when i sent it?
Yeah those two pieces are awesome but are picky it seems... I do not carbon dose... I'm old school and do old school carbon dosing... using GAC:spin3:
Again sweet pieces!
Copps
MammothReefer
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Thanks John,
I'm not really sure I don't remember what they said ha and thanks for the info. I'm running my tank the same way.
MammothReefer
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well the deed is finally done. Installed the frag tank. Hopefully I'll get some more stability with the additional water volume. It was nice to finally go threw and re-wire everything and clean up the tank even if it took all day. Unfortunately I was unable to make the switch over to my apex. I've been using it to run my pumps but for some reason after unplugging and replugging it back in it started flashing yellow and the controller just wouldn't turn on nor could I get to it via the web interface anymore so I had to redo everything on my acjr again hopefully I can get this resolved since I have everything setup and ready to switch over to the apex.
biggles
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The new frag tank setup is looking great mate, i'm sure the added water volume will contribute to better stability overall and more space for some LR by the looks of it. :thumbsup:
Looks like you're using a couple of nano Tunze's to move the water in there or is there more than that. Looking forward to the sweet stuff you're going to grow out in there.
Looks like you're using a couple of nano Tunze's to move the water in there or is there more than that. Looking forward to the sweet stuff you're going to grow out in there.
MammothReefer
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Thanks guys.
Warnnutts - I get really good coverage with the reflectors I have, given the size of my tank. Before I was running a combination of t5 and halide but just the 2 halides in luminarcs seem to be working out the best. Less watts, less things plugged in, less bulbs to change. With a really shallow tank you don't need much, in terms of colouration - I am very happy with how radiums appear, although I do miss being able to check out my corals with pure actnics. I have a purple plus and a blue plus over my frag tank and I leave them on a little longer then the halide just for that reason.
Biggles - Right now it's just the modded nanos they work really well after you hack them up. I do have an mp10 that I planned on setup but I think I have to get a rebuild kit. I can't 100% remember but I think it may have been spinning which is why I stopped using it.
But with that said everything is about to change...
Some good friends of mine moved this weekend upgraded there tank and were kind enough to pass on the previous setup to me.
I'm trying to decide how I want to set it up. It has a corner overflow but the stand has doors on either side so I can set it up as a peninsula or as a standard tank.
It's 42"x28"x21" so about 106 gallons and the sump is 30x2'x18 so 56 gallons. This should increase my water volume by 50-70 gallons depending on how much I fill up the sump. That will put me at a total around 200 gallons minus whatever corals rock and equipment take up. If I had to guess I'll proboly be sitting around 150 or so, basically double my current water volume before adding the new frag tank on. I'm hoping this will really help with stability.
Here she is loaded up in the car.
and in the house. It has a really tall stand which is awesome. Need a little cleaning but nothing some vinegar won't help with!
I'll try to find some pics before we tore it down at there place. Their tank was amazing and new one they are setting up will be even better!
Warnnutts - I get really good coverage with the reflectors I have, given the size of my tank. Before I was running a combination of t5 and halide but just the 2 halides in luminarcs seem to be working out the best. Less watts, less things plugged in, less bulbs to change. With a really shallow tank you don't need much, in terms of colouration - I am very happy with how radiums appear, although I do miss being able to check out my corals with pure actnics. I have a purple plus and a blue plus over my frag tank and I leave them on a little longer then the halide just for that reason.
Biggles - Right now it's just the modded nanos they work really well after you hack them up. I do have an mp10 that I planned on setup but I think I have to get a rebuild kit. I can't 100% remember but I think it may have been spinning which is why I stopped using it.
But with that said everything is about to change...
Some good friends of mine moved this weekend upgraded there tank and were kind enough to pass on the previous setup to me.
I'm trying to decide how I want to set it up. It has a corner overflow but the stand has doors on either side so I can set it up as a peninsula or as a standard tank.
It's 42"x28"x21" so about 106 gallons and the sump is 30x2'x18 so 56 gallons. This should increase my water volume by 50-70 gallons depending on how much I fill up the sump. That will put me at a total around 200 gallons minus whatever corals rock and equipment take up. If I had to guess I'll proboly be sitting around 150 or so, basically double my current water volume before adding the new frag tank on. I'm hoping this will really help with stability.
Here she is loaded up in the car.
and in the house. It has a really tall stand which is awesome. Need a little cleaning but nothing some vinegar won't help with!
I'll try to find some pics before we tore it down at there place. Their tank was amazing and new one they are setting up will be even better!
biggles
Premium Member
Thanks for answering my query mate, i have both my 6025's modded with the inner shrouds completely removed and there was a significant increase in flow output, i'd guess at least 50% more flow.
Nice score on that bigger tank. I guess the decision as to how to position the tank will depend on how good the glass is for viewing on the back once you get it cleaned up. Doing a peninsula tank with the upgrade would give you a great new challenge as you've well and truly covered the standard SPS tank display with your current beauty.
Whatever you decide there's a great many of us that will be following the upgrade mate. :thumbsup:
Nice score on that bigger tank. I guess the decision as to how to position the tank will depend on how good the glass is for viewing on the back once you get it cleaned up. Doing a peninsula tank with the upgrade would give you a great new challenge as you've well and truly covered the standard SPS tank display with your current beauty.
Whatever you decide there's a great many of us that will be following the upgrade mate. :thumbsup:
MammothReefer
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Well the deed is done. The 65 gallon is no more. We had a good few years and the transition for the most part when smooth but unfortunately there is a bit of fall out going, I have a few pieces that are displaying signs of STN/RTN. I'm hoping they start to pull together but even more so it doesn't spread. Unfortunately it's one of my larger tabling mili/things which is a real bummer as I grew from a tiny piece and wanted to make it the focal point of my new aquascape. I'm trying to let my alk slowly drop back down. I think the stress off the move combined with my alk instability (my alk had creep'd up to almost 11), and a bacteria bloom was just to much the acro. Tank moves are never easy and always risky. I really thought I had the process down but some things are out of your control nothing was out of water for to long and I kept almost all of my old water even though I added an additional 70-80gallons it should have worked out to the equivalent of me doing a large water change (of which I do many) temps never dropped below the mid 70s as well. Another couple causalities (well not really) was I some how butter fingered a couple large stags which have turned into piles of frags. They should grow back but are looking a bit beat up.
I'm happy the hard part is over but now I have to reglue everything and proboly rescape it 10000 times, properly run all my wires, switch over to the apex, wait for the 10000 cuts on my fingers to heal, and setup the light for the frag tank.
Anyways here are a few pics.
Last photos of the 65
Starting the take down aka welcome to my server room (I don't know how a tank that is relatively so simple has so many wires)
Frag tank down, new tank in it's place. Man 20k bulbs do a lot for your corals!
Getting ready to transfer (wheres the water!)
She's empty!
Ugh aquascape fail?
I'm happy the hard part is over but now I have to reglue everything and proboly rescape it 10000 times, properly run all my wires, switch over to the apex, wait for the 10000 cuts on my fingers to heal, and setup the light for the frag tank.
Anyways here are a few pics.
Last photos of the 65
Starting the take down aka welcome to my server room (I don't know how a tank that is relatively so simple has so many wires)
Frag tank down, new tank in it's place. Man 20k bulbs do a lot for your corals!
Getting ready to transfer (wheres the water!)
She's empty!
Ugh aquascape fail?
MammothReefer
Active member
Back up and running! (but everything is PO'd and there is so much more to do)
Side 1
Side 2
Down the middle (you can see the table up front starting to RTN behind the tang
)
Frag tank back in place
and the other side
Side 1
Side 2
Down the middle (you can see the table up front starting to RTN behind the tang
)
Frag tank back in place
and the other side
biggles
Premium Member
Thanks for sharing pics of the moving process mate, i've done a 4x2x2 SPS and it wasn't what i'd call enjoyable lol. Sorry to hear about the troubles with some of the colonies but considering the stresses the corals have gone through recently i can understand how the move was the final straw for some. Don't wait too long to do what needs doing if things don't stop with the STN, the new scape and style is awesome, should be just how you like it with about 200 more adjustments i reckon lol. :facepalm:
Despite the dramas i'm sure we're going to watch on with envy as you get the new system ticking along well once again. :thumbsup:
Despite the dramas i'm sure we're going to watch on with envy as you get the new system ticking along well once again. :thumbsup:
tdb320reef
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Nice move - I would have been seriously stressed.
MammothReefer
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Thanks unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse right now. I'm sort of at a loss for what to do. Other pieces that were fine are now RTN'ing and nothing really looks proper. Even a cyphastrea has started to rtn which is insane. My water parameters all seem within "OK" ranges, and my fish are all doing fine but I'm going to retest. Normally I would just do a water change but at this point who knows if the 80 gallons of new water isn't what set this off. I don't want to add any more instability to the system..
1000_smiles
Member
Thanks for taking pictures of the move.
Sorry about your troubles, hope that isn't your rainbow/smurf milli rtning.
Don't know if you saw this, or if it is even pertinent, but Ringleautomotive has some interesting ideas here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2321091
Good Luck
Sorry about your troubles, hope that isn't your rainbow/smurf milli rtning.
Don't know if you saw this, or if it is even pertinent, but Ringleautomotive has some interesting ideas here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2321091
Good Luck
biggles
Premium Member
Have you tested ammonia and nitrite mate just in case there's been a lot more die off on the rocks than you thought. If ammonia was creeping up the acros would show signs before the fish i think. Just trying to give you things to check that you may not have already. I would not run the halides when the corals are this stressed, or drastically reduce the photo period.
Watch for alk to spike if you haven't reduced your dosing, the drop in consumption might hit with a thump so please watch that one buddy. I know you know what you're doing but when all hell is breaking loose we sometimes need reminding - hang tough and don't give in mate.
Edit: Running carbon and wetting your skimmate to increase output might help with all the toxic coral tissue that's being released into the water - easy to forget that all that tissue leaving the skeleton is fouling the water. How are the frag tank corals faring.
Watch for alk to spike if you haven't reduced your dosing, the drop in consumption might hit with a thump so please watch that one buddy. I know you know what you're doing but when all hell is breaking loose we sometimes need reminding - hang tough and don't give in mate.
Edit: Running carbon and wetting your skimmate to increase output might help with all the toxic coral tissue that's being released into the water - easy to forget that all that tissue leaving the skeleton is fouling the water. How are the frag tank corals faring.
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