Little Rimless Radium Tank - 2 years of progress

Sorry man I just went through some rtn and Stn too. It seems to be under control now. I took off the dosers I was trying to learn how to use and went back to Kalk. My corals stopped consuming cal and alk for a good month. I am going to move the rest of the coral over to my other tank today.

That tank was sweet though, you should be proud! And the new one hopefully will be jus as sweet. Keep us updated.
 
Thanks guys for the support and links. I'm starting to "feel" that is some how bacteria related but I'm not really sure. The skimate has a yellowish "mulm" like quality and the first piece started showing signs of RTN after the bacteria bloom had gone away.

I've got the dosers off, and lights are shortened. I'm changing my filter socks twice a day and skimming really wet. I also added a second bag of carbon to the filter socks to go with w/my carbon & rowa reactors. Hoping it will have a larger percent of water pass over it. I've been making a batch of new salt water for what seems like forever (RO/DI is really moving slow for some reason) but hopefully I'll be able to do a water change tomorrow.

Unfortunately it has also started to appear in the frag tank. I had a couple "healthy" looking pieces (that are still doing fine) that I wanted to move out of the DT because I didn't have any frags of them and I may have contaminated the frag tank with or who knows. Whatever is causing the issue I think is larger then my filter socks pours the water in the sump and frag tank is crystal clear while the water is DT is hazy.

I also find it odd I'm getting no algae growth at all. You would think with all the dead stuff I would be seeing some sort of algae bloom at this point. Specially since I used all the old water, rocks etc.

The way things are spreading it seems to be in waves of related corals. First it was my tables, then it was stags, and now things like red dragon, hawkins, turkai and so on. I'm at a loss in the past I've just sort of rode the storm kept things as stable as possible and things and things would sort of pull back together with minimal amount of fragging and gluing...but this isn't the case this time pieces that I frag or glue just keep on letting go it isn't starting at any specific end of the coral so I had to break down and get more aggressive and have started yanking pieces that are letting go and really trimming them very far back in an effort to avoid polluting the water anymore.

I haven't tested ammonia or nitrite there isn't anything I can do about them until my water change is ready. One thing I do notice is that the water "feels" different. I have a lot of cuts on my hands from the move and it's not an electric shock (I've been zapped plenty of times). The only way I can describe it is "acidic/stingy" more so then I've ever noticed and it stays with you long after washing my hands with fresh water. If I still lived in SD I would just get a ton of scripps water and do 100% water changes but I don't have that option available to me anymore.

Unfortunately I'm running out of time and I am going to have to get a lot more aggressive with what I try to save. One of the main reasons I did the swap was because of a looming surgery I have coming up and I knew I wouldn't have the ability to deal with any complex tank issues for some time afterwords nor would I be able to do the swap for at least 6 months. I didn't think the tank would last that long giving the decrease in the stability of the system. I was hoping the larger water volume would help minimize any of the alkalinity swings I had been dealing with in an effort to avoid this very situation. In hindsight what I think I should have done was just replace the frag tank with the new tank and essentially used the new tank as a larger frag tank/way to increase my water volume until I was ready to migrate thing over, but even then I just don't know the exact trigger so it could have happened either way.
 
Sorry to read these news mammoth:(
I hope everything goes well and you save everything with the minimal cost.
 
I've pretty much lost all my colonies it sort of landslided today when a few more of the bigger pieces started giving up it just sent ripple of RTN. My lemonade went from being "OK" to nothing in less then an hour. Some stuff is the frag tank is still holding on only 1 or 2 colonies the rest are frags at this point. I have a water change almost ready for first thing in the morning and I cut the flow all the way down to the frag tank for now.

I'm confident I figured out a contributing factor if not the main cause. I never would have suspected because I wasn't getting zapped like when my titanium heater popped and wiped my 500g years ago. I also had my grounding probe in and don't know if i had my hands in the tank with the heater on when I tested, both heaters are still under warranty and there is no sign of any physical damage. I'm really in shock atm.. between GFIC and Grounding probes I thought I was in good shape from this type of damage. I guess not. I specifically went with the biggest oversized heaters I could fit so they would have to work as little as possible in order to create as little stress for my heaters as possible.

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Heater 2
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Just for clarification the moisture is on the inside of the glass. I don't even know what to do at this point. Do I go to the dumpster and dig out all the skeletons? I'm sort of at a loss for words.
 
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I'm so sorry to hear things have continued to spiral downhill mate :( Is there any way you can isolate the frag tank and use it to house only non affected corals. I've tried to help with friends going through SPS melt downs and getting ok stuff out of the toxic death soup of chemicals released by the RTN'ing acros seemed to be the only help. I don't want you to just sit back and watch things slide.
As much as it guts me to say this i think it's time to go for broke and save what you can any way you can. If you try to keep everything with signs of RTN it's going to be a hard battle to win and will likely see more unaffected corals decline rapidly.
I wish you all the best in whatever actions you take from this point mate - wish i was near so i could look after some stuff for you.
 
My tank has never been as beautiful as yours but my colonies are older and I can only imagine the deep disappointment if I lost those colonies.

Sincerely hoping you see a end to this current trend.

I am really quite surprised that more than 1 heater failed.
 
Yeah I'm so sorry I had the same thing hAppen to me, now I only put my heater inthe tank in the winter and check it constantly. I lost colonies 4to 5 years old. I could not look at my tank for months I was soo disgusted, I'm sorry
 
Thanks again guys for all the support. I was really surprised to see that both heaters had moisture in them. 1 I can understand... ....well not really but it's more plausible. I'm about to do a water change in just a few moments both tanks now are chalky white.
 
No it didn't. The water got a little clearer but even aggressively removing anything that was showing signs of RTN, and doing water changes, with fresh carbon and poly pads didn't help. Pretty much the only thing that is left now is some frogspawn, my fish, a couple birdsnest frags and a few random LPS that don't look good but may hold on.
 
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:( I'm gutted for you mate, i lost an entire tank of mature SPS years ago when a b*tch from hell turned the power off before i had a chance to move the tank out of the family home - i actually came close to vomiting when i stood in front of years of work all deathly white, i've only returned to the hobby recently and at the time i didn't think i ever would.
Take some time to have a break and get your head around what's happened and then get stuck in again asap. No more AEFW is a very small positive out of all this i hope. :)
 
Just some fish and a few random lps pieces maybe a couple specs of monti. I actually thought that maybe I had beaten the AEFW to be honest. I hadn't seen traces of them in a while. I just bought some nudis to help with the aptisia as well. I hope they survived but I'll never see them and if anything is going to live threw this it's going to be all the aptasia lol.

I would like take the frag tank offline if I had the time just to make it easier to maintain everything over the next 2-3 months until I'll be able to start using my arm again, but I only have 3 days left until my surgery and I have a number of other responsibilities that need my attention.

In hindsight I should have taken the first water change water I made up and used it to set up a separate system or just drew a line in the sand and never migrated anything from the DT to the frag tank and stuck to my guns and kept it separate. I should have been more meticulous with my inspection of my equipment. The heater thing I just don't know. There shouldn't be water inside the heaters that is a given but I have everything on GFCI, I have a grounding probe nothing tripped, I never was shocked and who knows how long they were like that. It just seems so strange both heaters would fail in the same way at the exact same time.


After the tank move I had the initial bac bloom (to be expected) but it cleared up. Then everything started to let go and since then the tank seems like it has either been in perpetual bacteria bloom or perpetual cloud of dead stuff I can't really tell it's just hazy.

At this point I'm just going to keep doing water changes as long as I can (3 more days), and keep changing filter socks. After that I just have to wait for the giant algae explosion.
 
No I haven't tested, the tank was a running reef tank just before I picked it up. I helped my friend take it down and move her stuff then brought the tank home. Before I set it up I cleaned it all out scraped up most of the coraline and so on. I'm running polyfiters and they are just turning brown.
 
Just wanted to say congrats in the TOTM honors! I followed your thread with the ups and the heartbreaking downs. Inspired a lot of us, including myself, to keep on going when things go sour sometimes...
 
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