Magnet Holder 6200.50 - Loose Caps
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These covers are only decorative, they hide the poured polyurethane resin that is the actual waterproofing and is less visually attractive. They can be glued on with super glue or model cement, I would also be willing to exchange them if they are brand new and you have all the packaging.
Craig Borowski
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Yes, it is. People often use it to glue corals. Just make sure it's regular super glue (cyanoacrylate) or super glue gel.
Bilk
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Yes the covers on the magnets of my new 9011 fell off ....
Yes the covers on the magnets of my new 9011 fell off ....
upon removal from the box. I know Tunze and in particular these DOC skimmers have a great rep, but I think some criticism is due here. For a product that isn't inexpensive and comes from a well established entity, I feel the overall construction, design, presentation and documentation looks and feels cheap and can be much better and should be much better at this stage in the game. The experience of removing the 9011 from the box and looking over the components brought me back to the 1970s.
The documentation needs a lot of work as does the overall design to bring this product line into the 21st century. There is a lot of competition out there now and I think Tunze needs to step up their game a bit and offer something that doesn't look and feel like it was made in a Chinese factory making cheesy toys. That may be harsh, but I don't think it's justified. It says "Made in Germany" on the box. There are a lot of finely crafted things made in Germany and utilized all over the globe. Though it performs well, it certainly doesn't initially look like it will. Paying almost $400 with shipping only to have to perform repairs on a new item, isn't very professional and doesn't represent the brand well.
With all that said, I fully expect the 9011 to perform well as it historically has done in many reef aquaria. Someone needs to let Tunze know they have to make changes. Being an architect and designer, I can see the possibilities and they don't need to cost a lot to execute.
Yes the covers on the magnets of my new 9011 fell off ....
upon removal from the box. I know Tunze and in particular these DOC skimmers have a great rep, but I think some criticism is due here. For a product that isn't inexpensive and comes from a well established entity, I feel the overall construction, design, presentation and documentation looks and feels cheap and can be much better and should be much better at this stage in the game. The experience of removing the 9011 from the box and looking over the components brought me back to the 1970s.
The documentation needs a lot of work as does the overall design to bring this product line into the 21st century. There is a lot of competition out there now and I think Tunze needs to step up their game a bit and offer something that doesn't look and feel like it was made in a Chinese factory making cheesy toys. That may be harsh, but I don't think it's justified. It says "Made in Germany" on the box. There are a lot of finely crafted things made in Germany and utilized all over the globe. Though it performs well, it certainly doesn't initially look like it will. Paying almost $400 with shipping only to have to perform repairs on a new item, isn't very professional and doesn't represent the brand well.
With all that said, I fully expect the 9011 to perform well as it historically has done in many reef aquaria. Someone needs to let Tunze know they have to make changes. Being an architect and designer, I can see the possibilities and they don't need to cost a lot to execute.
The 9011 will get a full overhaul by end of 2014 and have a design more in line with the 9004. The 9011 is basically the body of the 3130 which was introduced in 1985 and it has just been refreshed along the way with small changes, the only part that is even from this decade is the pump, even the magnet holder was designed in 2004 and the current designs are much better, they just don't fit the old housing. Unfortunately, aquarium equipment is not a high volume production so it takes a long time to pay off molds and justify major design changes and it may not look the greatest but it works and is battle tested and reliable and far more rugged and rebuildable than you would perceive at first glance. I think the new model that will replace it will be a big advance in terms of looks, I know it is very dated. I know a lot of people expect we are this huge company just swimming in money, it is not so, we are small family business with a total of 50 employees and only 3 in the US, aquariums are simply not a big business so things aren't necessarily up to the standards a huge company with specialized staff can do, this is the work of a few dozen jack of all trades.
Bilk
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I guess I seemed a little harsh and, well, it wasn't my intent to insult anyone but to prod those who make the decisions into considering changes. I guess I'm not first in line.
I know it's a proven workhorse and that is the reason I bought it. I didn't want a needlewheel skimmer as I've had them and realize they're not beneficial to the tank inhabitants and they're much more noisy. However I have read similar posts to what I made, before buying it and thought "It can't be that bad. It's a Tunze and it's been a staple in the hobby for a long time." I was quite surprised when many of the comments about the build were unfortunately well founded.
I fully understand the aspects of cost considerations. That's my business as an architect, though some of us are known to push the envelop
I'm sure it will serve me well until 2014 when I'll take a look at the new offerings
And, when it's up and running I'll post my review which I'm sure will be as expected in terms of operation.
It is something we have been working on since 2011, the 9004 and new COMLINE system (6208, 3162, 3163) are the first fruits of this process but all other COMLINE units will also see an overhaul soon, the 9004, etc were a huge investment in new molds and at the same time we have moved all motor coil production in house and this is an even bigger investment so we need to pay this down and move on to the next project, but a new 9011 is already on the drawing board.
The build may look primitive and dated, but it is BASF polyamide and it is far more durable than it looks, you can drop them a considerable distance and they won't break. In the early days of the marine hobby we had to contend with two big issues, molding machines for big parts were expensive and the reef hobby in the 80's was very small, in its infancy. So, the body is a bit over a half dozen smaller pieces hand glued together. Today, this has changed, hand labor is our biggest expense and it bottlenecks production and the hobby is much bigger so we can justify a new design and it will likely lower the price.
The build may look primitive and dated, but it is BASF polyamide and it is far more durable than it looks, you can drop them a considerable distance and they won't break. In the early days of the marine hobby we had to contend with two big issues, molding machines for big parts were expensive and the reef hobby in the 80's was very small, in its infancy. So, the body is a bit over a half dozen smaller pieces hand glued together. Today, this has changed, hand labor is our biggest expense and it bottlenecks production and the hobby is much bigger so we can justify a new design and it will likely lower the price.
Bilk
New member
Well I'm looking forward to it. I used to wonder why I would see Tunze skimmers with rubber bands around them. Now I know. The standpipe doesn't want to stay on. Have any tricks for keeping it in place? How about an alternative for me to the 9011? It's only been wet tested with RO water so far. However the motor vibration keeps kicking off the standpipe and the retainer plate. Something I'm not very pleased with.
Bilk
New member
Yes in the US. I find it odd that this piece is just wedge fit into the opening. There's no real mechanical means of holding it in place. The weight of the standpipe plus the water pressure passing out of the lower opening is enough to force the whole assembly out of position. The slight vibrating from the pump assists.
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