May switch to BB because of sand storms, have questions
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mikeguerrero
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Ray,
If you closely at the pics you'll see three 1200 Maxi-jet power heads in separate corners, they each have directional plates pointing downward.
They are controlled by the reefkeeper 1 which has them on timers that simulate water currents.
I then have the return pump pointing directly forward and since my tank is a bowfront the water evenly distributes the powerful surge of water to all areas in the front of the tank; I run a mag 1200 as the return pump.
Mike G
If you closely at the pics you'll see three 1200 Maxi-jet power heads in separate corners, they each have directional plates pointing downward.
They are controlled by the reefkeeper 1 which has them on timers that simulate water currents.
I then have the return pump pointing directly forward and since my tank is a bowfront the water evenly distributes the powerful surge of water to all areas in the front of the tank; I run a mag 1200 as the return pump.
Mike G
raynist
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Thanks. I am running 2 Tunze 6000's, they are rated at 1850gph each when on 100% duty. I typically have one at 100% while the other is at 40% and they switch every 6 seconds. They are on opposite sides of the tank pointing towards each other. Those combined with my return pump puts me at about 2800gph.
--Ray
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E-A-G-L-E-S
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seems enough ....2 6000's in a 180...maybe not, but it seems as though that should be enough?
joefish
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Mike , your flow though it's good , is not close to what the tunzes can create . This might be why you have less storms .
Your right maturity will help , The bacteria that grows on and around the sand will help to weigh it down . Also after time the smaller particles will settle to the bottom of the sand bed .
This is not a good thing . If it's clumping , it's a sign that something is not right . You shouldn't have any solidifieing . Either you don't have enough critter movement or your alk might be to high .
I Hope this helps you some .
examiner
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Ray - not to get into a dsb vs. bb debate, but if you did go bb you'd be able to take full advantage of both of those tunze's.
Sandbeds do compact over time, and alot of the blowing around does get eliminated. But you've got some major flow compared to Mike. And his reef is pretty mixed vs. your desire for a sps/clam tank.
Mike's tank is darn nice looking. But it's relatively young at this point. Mike, I mean this with total respect, and I hope you prove me wrong, but you've got a pretty large bioload in there, you've got rock packed to the seams, and your flow is pretty low. This is a fairly common denominator among those who have had DSB "crashes" over the years.
That was probably out of line - just my 2 cent opinion. Your tank does look great Mike and I hope it works for you for many years in the future.
Sandbeds do compact over time, and alot of the blowing around does get eliminated. But you've got some major flow compared to Mike. And his reef is pretty mixed vs. your desire for a sps/clam tank.
Mike's tank is darn nice looking. But it's relatively young at this point. Mike, I mean this with total respect, and I hope you prove me wrong, but you've got a pretty large bioload in there, you've got rock packed to the seams, and your flow is pretty low. This is a fairly common denominator among those who have had DSB "crashes" over the years.
That was probably out of line - just my 2 cent opinion. Your tank does look great Mike and I hope it works for you for many years in the future.
joefish
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If you like the sand look or want animals that need sand , give it time it might settle down enough to make it work . Those tunzes add a lot of flow .
I personaly like BB tanks for a sps only tank . You can realy crank up the flow that way . The corals realy respond well to that type of flow .
Good luck in what you decied,
Joe
E-A-G-L-E-S
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hey guys...i was told today by a long time reefer that a 6060 w/ a mag9.5 return would be enough for a 120g. mainly SPS?
He has been right about everything...even in hindsight for the 13 months i've known him. Is he right? I would think that the side the 6060 is on would be relatively slow flow area?
Also...what is the difference between Seio 1500's 1500gph and Tunze's 1585 gph?
He has been right about everything...even in hindsight for the 13 months i've known him. Is he right? I would think that the side the 6060 is on would be relatively slow flow area?
Also...what is the difference between Seio 1500's 1500gph and Tunze's 1585 gph?
joefish
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It can be right .
A lot has to depend on rock set up . If you use a lot of rock , you need more flow . Rock can keep flow to getting to all desired places . So somtimes you need more spots from which the flow is being created from .
I don't know seios , but I would throw that question in the equipment forum for a better answer .
E-A-G-L-E-S
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i did...no responses. lol
mikeguerrero
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In response to more flow via the tunze pumps. I looked into them but since I was running the reefkeeper they would not support the constant off and on.
So I choose to go with the maxijet which are proven over and over to be a great pumps.
You have to understand the tunzes and seios are designed to create turbulance not steady stream therefore enhancing the spectrum for the likes of clams and sps.
In order to achieve the seio or tunze affect with maxijet pumps, you require collision of streams and that is what the reefkeeper does; it allows these jets to collide and create turbulance if the given angles are worked out.
I personally do not like the look that Tunzes and Seios have in reefers tanks; it pulls away from the tank a ten fold, it's my opinion and not meant to offend anyone.
I want to be as natural as can be in my aquascaping and it shows with my tanks.
Tunze and seios has created special rocks to allow these monster pumps to be hidden out of site.
I love what the tunze and seio does, I just hate the size of these huge pumps, they simply take away from the visuals of the tank.
If they create a tunze or seio in the future that is mini in size with power, I will be on it and place it in my reef.
As it is, my reefkeeper is pretty amazing with it's programming of the maxis to allow the mixture of intense water.
You can see the movement of the polyps in my SPS and they are happy.
My sand bed has some areas that have solidify but my increase in sandsifters has taken it back to within normal.
With barebottom tanks, I love the SPS look and of course love the amount of currents I see.
But it's not just good currents that make up a tank, it's everything in between as well.
Just my opinion....
Mike G
P.S
I do have a huge bioload in my small reef, and I've also invested in a great filtration system. I do run Deltec equipment and I'm in the process of adding ozone, just waiting for it to arrive.
My skimmer is rated for up to 175 gallon stocked lightly and 111 gallon stocked heavily, so I'm still way below this recommendation.
My tank is very new only half a year old and I'm still learning, presently I'm learning to fight nitrates as they are my biggest concern.
So I choose to go with the maxijet which are proven over and over to be a great pumps.
You have to understand the tunzes and seios are designed to create turbulance not steady stream therefore enhancing the spectrum for the likes of clams and sps.
In order to achieve the seio or tunze affect with maxijet pumps, you require collision of streams and that is what the reefkeeper does; it allows these jets to collide and create turbulance if the given angles are worked out.
I personally do not like the look that Tunzes and Seios have in reefers tanks; it pulls away from the tank a ten fold, it's my opinion and not meant to offend anyone.
I want to be as natural as can be in my aquascaping and it shows with my tanks.
Tunze and seios has created special rocks to allow these monster pumps to be hidden out of site.
I love what the tunze and seio does, I just hate the size of these huge pumps, they simply take away from the visuals of the tank.
If they create a tunze or seio in the future that is mini in size with power, I will be on it and place it in my reef.
As it is, my reefkeeper is pretty amazing with it's programming of the maxis to allow the mixture of intense water.
You can see the movement of the polyps in my SPS and they are happy.
My sand bed has some areas that have solidify but my increase in sandsifters has taken it back to within normal.
With barebottom tanks, I love the SPS look and of course love the amount of currents I see.
But it's not just good currents that make up a tank, it's everything in between as well.
Just my opinion....
Mike G
P.S
I do have a huge bioload in my small reef, and I've also invested in a great filtration system. I do run Deltec equipment and I'm in the process of adding ozone, just waiting for it to arrive.
My skimmer is rated for up to 175 gallon stocked lightly and 111 gallon stocked heavily, so I'm still way below this recommendation.
My tank is very new only half a year old and I'm still learning, presently I'm learning to fight nitrates as they are my biggest concern.
