"Maze" Angel LOL!!!

ccampbell57

ccampbell57

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If anyone is interested in overpaying by about $1K for a blueline...check out N Y Aqua and his steller "Maze"...

I have seen a true maze in person...(hint hint Rob...where are the pictures of the beauty) and the one he has is NO MAZE.

You tell me

True Maze:
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Their Maze
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So what species is the one being sold on Nyaquatic? What species is the blue line? What species is the true "maze" Where are their distributions? Do they overlap? Are they all the same? Now I know this is highly debated.... Who can say positively if this is not a so called "maze"? Oh copps, a clarification please!
Which one is this sexy angel. Could be one of the most beautiful angels I have ever seen, well a picture of.....
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Did LA ever sell the pair of Mazes that they posted pics of back in December? If so I never saw them, and how much were they?
 
Tim the picture you have is of a maze. If you look at that picture and the one in my first photo, they are true Maze angels.

There is some debate as to the geniology of the Maze. If you have seen one up close it looks like a hybrid of a blue spot and a blueline. The one that is in NY is a picture of a blueline from a different area of Malaysia or S. Japan. Orange faces have true orange faces and are almost identical to the bluelines...

Look in the pictures of the maze angels...their lines fade to the back and turn into the back end of a bluespot...
 
so there is no possibility that it's a juvenile maze? looks pretty similar, but I don't know much about angels
 
Wow, spectacular fish Chris!

I'm not an expert, but there's a lot of variable between mazes.

Some people (most people?) believe that they're a hybrid between a blue line and an orange face or blue spot.

If that's the case, maybe this is 90% blueline and 10% orange face?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15527568#post15527568 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cantonesefish
Wow, spectacular fish Chris!

I'm not an expert, but there's a lot of variable between mazes.

Some people (most people?) believe that they're a hybrid between a blue line and an orange face or blue spot.

If that's the case, maybe this is 90% blueline and 10% orange face?
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How do you get a 90/10 hybrid? Whos the lazy one, mom or dad?:D
 
Hybridization doesn't always cause a 50:50 split in the phenotype. As jmaneyapanda alludes to, the genotype of a f1 hybrid has to be 50:50 (no lazy gametes!) but that does not mean that the phenotype expresses itself at the same ratio. Some of the characteristics are going to be multivariate anyway.

There is also the *slight* chance of getting an f2 hybrid with one parent being a hybrid and the other being pure, in this case, prolly a blueline.

That said, in the absence of genetic, or even meristic data, all anyone can say is the fish *look* like this or that. IMO, some of what people see in this species "complex" is just individual variation, possibly combined with environmentally-caused differences (think gold coney, etc.) , and possibly secondary sexual characteristics, all muddled together with cases of hybridization thrown in for good measure. Oh, did I happen to mention that I'm a lumper, not a splitter(grin).

Jay
 
This one is very confusing, as is some of the fish in this family. Many books refer to the second picture as a "maze" but like ccampbell57 stated it looks just like a varient of a blueline. Most of us think of a "true" maze which looks like the top picture which looks like a blueline/bluespot combination.

One interesting thing I found after taking a bunch of pictures of my large bluespot (almost 7" now) is that the blue spots actually form lines across the body. They are not random dots.
 
The more and more I look at the picture on NY, the fish has some markings of a Maze, ie. the squigly lines and there is a small section on the belly towards the back that fades to bluespots...

I guess the coloration of the picture needs to be better.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15528580#post15528580 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ccampbell57
The more and more I look at the picture on NY, the fish has some markings of a Maze, ie. the squigly lines and there is a small section on the belly towards the back that fades to bluespots...

I guess the coloration of the picture needs to be better.
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Someone on the MR forum beat me to asking for a better pic and Mike said he will post a better pic later.
 
it was only 4", which is still very small for either a blueline or a maze. It has a lot of growing to do before anyone knows what it is :)
 
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